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    Hi there! I am in there process of installing a set of P-rails with Triple-shots into an LP knockoff. I plan to reverse wire one of the triple-shots, so that the switch positions make more sense. My question is, since the neck P-rail in the set is RWRP, will reverse wiring it put it out of phase with the other pickup? Thanks!

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    No, it just changes which coil is on in a given switch position.
    I always use the reverse wiring so that the switches kinda point to the active coil...Switches together = series, switches apart = parallel, switches toward the neck = neck coil active, switches toward the bridge = bridge coil active. It's just logical to me.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GuitarDoc View Post
      No, it just changes which coil is on in a given switch position.
      I always use the reverse wiring so that the switches kinda point to the active coil...Switches together = series, switches apart = parallel, switches toward the neck = neck coil active, switches toward the bridge = bridge coil active. It's just logical to me.
      Yeah, that's how I do it.
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      • #4
        I thought that was the case, but just wasn't sure if the RWRP would be affected. Thank you!

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          Got them installed, and you were correct, no phase issues! Thanks again!

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          • #6
            That is one cool guitar!
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            • #7
              Thanks! It had been an old Grass Roots gold-top, from ESP, with a nice body and neck, that my local shop sold me for $200 out the door. I immediately sanded off the ugly gold paint, and found some nice wood underneath, replaced everything except the switch, and I now have a pretty interesting LP knockoff, plays and sounds great (to me)...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by magillver View Post
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                Got them installed, and you were correct, no phase issues! Thanks again!
                I don't always like black hardware, but man that looks mean. All that's missing is a blackl poker chip, preferably with cheeky replacements for "Rhythm/Treble."
                It's going to sounds great and be versatile as all get out with the P-Rails + Triple Shots.
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                • #9
                  I love the look of natural wood
                  Originally Posted by IanBallard
                  Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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                  • #10
                    I kinda like it without the poker chip.
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                    • #11
                      As much as I appreciate "cheeky", I don't really need a hunk of plastic telling me which position my 3-way switch is in, even without the visual aid, I have a 1-in 3 chance of guessing right. I'm personally more concerned about the tiny, little black switches in the black triple-shots, and trying to set/keep track of which position those are in...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by magillver View Post
                        As much as I appreciate "cheeky", I don't really need a hunk of plastic telling me which position my 3-way switch is in, even without the visual aid, I have a 1-in 3 chance of guessing right. I'm personally more concerned about the tiny, little black switches in the black triple-shots, and trying to set/keep track of which position those are in...
                        I used push/pulls to get all the P-Rails sounds, and yes, keeping track of the switches to know which of the 4 sounds each pickup was set to was a chore. Eventually I realized that I only used half the tones.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MikeS View Post

                          I used push/pulls to get all the P-Rails sounds, and yes, keeping track of the switches to know which of the 4 sounds each pickup was set to was a chore. Eventually I realized that I only used half the tones.
                          I think most people who have complex switching systems eventually realize they actually use just a few sounds.
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                          • #14
                            I have another set of triple-shots on a pair of Seth Lovers on a PRS hollow body, and there are definitely a couple of settings that I go to regularly, but it's fun to know how much else I can do with all of the other settings. It's especially interesting with the P-rails, since the individual coils are so different from each other, it really opens up the tonal possibilities....

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