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  • Back with a new tube amp

    Hi All,

    Well, I've been away for quite a while, but much happened since then.

    I sold my Tech 21 Trademark 10 amp (good amp but too weak, and not very good clean sound).

    I then bought a V-Amp 2 simply because someone had one cheap. NEVER buy that. I sold it after a week. This is really subpar Line 6 POD.

    So after that, I thought that a tube amp was the only cure . I went to my favourite rental store, tried a couple of amps (never buy a Crate 30 tube amp - piece of crap). I rented a Traynor YCV40 (Guitar Player's Editor's Pick), and I am more and more amazed by this amp - and it's made in Canada, what can be cooler! It give you (almost) Fender clean and (almost) Marshall JMC800-type crunch. So I'm in heaven.

    Problem is, I don't have a mic.... so I got my Behringer direct box with 4X12 cab simulator off the shelf... does it sounds good? Not so sure.

    Problem is, my speaker are OK (a bit on the hip-hop-too-much-bass side) but my headphone are crappy, so that's why I'm asking you.

    This is almost a poll. Do I keep the direct box or do I buy a mic? Suggestions are also welcome for a good quality mic at a fair price.

    Please tell me. There's enough tone master here to have good advices, no?

    Click on this
    CLIP

    This is a simple AC/DC like chord progression that is evolving (I now have a melody line for it that will change it dramatically), which I shortened just for the sake of doing a tone clip. Don't tell me this is soft porn stuff, I'll rip your head off
    Last edited by Sly_D; 11-03-2004, 10:58 AM.

    Gibson Les Paul Traditional
    Norman B50 Acoustic Guitar

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    Re: Back with a new tube amp

    Listening to the Soundclick version, I wonder if you can have a fair opinion. The Wave version on my computer is very good. The MP3 version is not as good and the Soundclicks MP3 is the worst of them all. Anyway... Maybe I should really stop being lousy and put these files in .wav format on my own site...

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    • #3
      Re: Back with a new tube amp

      i say get this mic http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...pid/276668/and yes i pic it over sm57 through countless experiences

      then a http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/701368/ (use headphones for playback and recording for this item)
      and ur good to rock
      Last edited by Studiobuddy; 10-19-2004, 09:13 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Back with a new tube amp

        Hey thanks StudioBuddy. I wasn't aware of the USB pre-amp. Sounds pretty cool. Thanks a lot!

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        • #5
          Re: Back with a new tube amp

          Well, I think it's mighty fine so far. The distortion is hella tight!
          I would love to hear it through a mic, but I think that's cool sounding!
          Why don't you take your little Cobra Kais and get outta here?!
          My collaborative PROGRESSIVE ROCK PROJECT, As Follows.

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          • #6
            Re: Back with a new tube amp

            yea i think the line put gives it some sustain from trying to transmit the signal and all that good hi-lo impedence kinda wire stuff majigger

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            • #7
              Re: Back with a new tube amp

              wait i think its the line signal that distorts it, god its been awhile since ive been into recording and guitar so i gotta relearn some shiznit

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              • #8
                Re: Back with a new tube amp

                Nice playing Sly!
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                • #9
                  Re: Back with a new tube amp

                  Thanks guys. I think the rhythm sounds fine. The lead would probably sound a lot better with a mic. For the time being anyway, I'll have to use it this way.

                  The lead in itself has an Angus Young type of sound, not much gain, so to get a higher gain sound, I spiced it up with a Boss OD-3 Overdrive. I like this pedal better than the SD-1 I previously owned (it sucked the bottom end). I simply leave the gain at 0 and put the level at 3 o'clock. Very cool boost without sucking up the bottom end. I'd still like to try a TS-9 family pedal. I may go for a Jekyll & Hyde or Route 66 someday. All this stuff cost way too much money

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                  • #10
                    Re: Back with a new tube amp

                    Well, I know Panzer will want to hear this ... he's been GAS'ing for a Traynor!
                    Why don't you take your little Cobra Kais and get outta here?!
                    My collaborative PROGRESSIVE ROCK PROJECT, As Follows.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Back with a new tube amp

                      Well, if he's into classic rock and blues and also want a good clean sound, he can't go wrong. And it's also freaking loud. And with a good booster pedal, you can get into metal territory (although I wouldn't recommand this amp to a true metal fan).

                      I also read that this amp sound almost like a JMC 800 with new JJ tubes. I contacted Bob at the JJtubes site and he sells complete replacement kits for Traynor amps... can't wait to have the money for this also

                      I'll try to post various clips with various sound when I'm not as busy as I am right now.

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                      Norman B50 Acoustic Guitar

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                      • #12
                        Re: Back with a new tube amp

                        Sounds cool man, bet it sounds even better when your stood right infront of it.

                        I'd be intrested in hearing the difference between this tone and (if you get one) the mic'd tone on the same track just for reference

                        Playings great as usual
                        My clips

                        Originally posted by Rid
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                        • #13
                          Re: Back with a new tube amp

                          Thanks Nuntius... yeah, I'll try to make some clips with the direct box and some with a mic.

                          I can already say that this direct box (which have a digital 4X12 cab simulator) sounds WAY better with a tube amp. It sounded like crap with my Peavey Bandit. Maybe the Traynor Preamp Out is better. Yet the tube distortion is so much better anyway.

                          And you're right, standing in front of the map, the sound of tube is so much more organic... now I know why pros dig tubes. Yet, you can't say that of any amp. I tried the Traynor YCV20 before this one (smaller, more convenient for home use) and the distortion sounded like an ugly fart. It has 2 EL84 tubes. The YCV40 has 2 6L6 tubes and a better speaker (Celestion Seventy 80 - not high-end but good enough. I would change it for a Greenback or a Vintage 30 only if I gigged).

                          Cheers!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Back with a new tube amp

                            Very nice tones and riffs. I would really like to hear it mic'd if you get around to it. Nice score on the amp Sly.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Back with a new tube amp

                              Thanks Stevo... I'm dying to get an SM57 now... but I don't think it will happen before Christmas

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