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  • Considering new DAW

    Might start with a freebie like waveform or cakewalk but open to under $200 for PC.

    I’ve been using reaper for a long time but feel like I need a change and want some better in-the-box plug ins.

    main wants: easy to use, nice plugins with some presets I can use as starting points; halfway decent midi editor for drums

    thx

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    I love Waveform, and have been using it since it was Tracktion. It looks great, super simple but very powerful.
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    • #3
      I use Waveform on my Linux box. It is a great product.


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      • #4
        Awesome thank you guys - I’ll start with waveform

        i do like the looks of cakewalk though, that traditional console feel

        One thing I noticed on a waveform vid was that you can upload a track to their site and it automatically masters it for you. Not a bad trick, although it’s totally in the box/who knows what it’s doing kinda thing.
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        Last edited by DankStar; 06-06-2022, 07:14 AM.

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        • #5
          I couldn't help it, I tried Cakewalk first, I wanted to see what the fx, drums and built-in amps sounded like.

          First impressions:
          - super crowded layout (so many tiny buttons, it's easy to get lost/confused)
          - I was miffed that the free version didn't have the analog tape plugin (there are some I have that I like so no biggie)
          - the bandlab assistant was eating up my CPU usage with like 5 instances running at once, but I think it was a carry over from the installation
          - LOVE the built-in FX (reverb and delay sounded amazing with guitar), the pro channel (tons of presets and love the eq), the built in amps (I quickly dialed in a usable mesa sound), and the drums weren't bad either
          - When I started dragging and dropping some beats, things got less user friendly. I could probably change some of the layout to make it easier, but I just didn't immediately like the feel of creating a drum section. Programming drums sucks anyway though, always tedious.

          Gonna check waveform next...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DankStar View Post
            been using reaper for a long time but feel like I need a change and want some better in-the-box plug ins.
            ?

            Barring Pro Tools (has some really great included plugins, but expensive), most if not all budget DAWs include a rudimentary set of plugins.

            What you do is build a library... there are literally bazillions of plugins that work with Reaper (and others), from cheap good stuff to expensive good stuff. And of course there's the crap too.

            I hear Waves is priced well nowadays (they used to be uber expensive).

            You should target the kinds of plugins you need for your projects, then start picking up some here and there.

            After awhile you'll have a library of plugins to pull from.

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            • #7
              I use Harrison Mixbus and Reaper. Both are pretty straightforward and cheap.

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              • #8
                I definitely have a lot of plugins I use, but the last time I went to use Reaper, some of them weren't working anymore for some reason and I was like F-this, I want something with better ones tied to the DAW (I never liked reaper's JS series). EDIT: realized I don't have many of the plugins from the project on this laptop, that's why I couldn't use them *facepalm*

                Some of the best mixes I ever did were on Logic Express, and I believe it was in part due to some of the in-the-box plugs that came with it (and maybe in the rendering?). But my mac is long gone and I'm trying to get back to that feeling of being excited about my DAW.

                I do like the idea of buying some waves plugins now that they are reasonably priced/always on sale.

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                Just tried Waveform - pretty interesting layout, I kinda like it

                I LOVE the midi editor so far. I could go into it quickly and add and move around stuff, increase the window size easily, etc. This wasn't as intuitive in Cakewalk.

                Kinda torn at this point, they are both cool in different ways.

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                Grabbed some Waves plugins during the sale: CLA-3A, CLA-76, J37 tape, and SSL EV2 channel. Most excited about the channel one. Dead duck's was fun, but this one has a ton more features.
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                Last edited by DankStar; 06-10-2022, 07:27 AM.

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                • #9
                  right back where I started lol

                  Waveform crashes just trying to do simple plugin stuff

                  Cakewalk crashed when I was only processing a few drum pieces with a channel strip plugin

                  Back to reaper which was handling things just fine during my tests, but have some new plugins to stimulate me. SSL EV2 is amazing btw, love it.

                  (I'd probably use cakewalk if my computer could handle it, but I do appreciate the layout of reaper now, not too crowded, but somewhat like a typical mixing desk)
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                  Last edited by DankStar; 06-15-2022, 12:26 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DankStar View Post
                    right back where I started lol

                    Waveform crashes just trying to do simple plugin stuff

                    Cakewalk crashed when I was only processing a few drum pieces with a channel strip plugin

                    Back to reaper which was handling things just fine during my tests, but have some new plugins to stimulate me. SSL EV2 is amazing btw, love it.

                    (I'd probably use cakewalk if my computer could handle it, but I do appreciate the layout of reaper now, not too crowded, but somewhat like a typical mixing desk)
                    In its base form, Reaper most likely has the lowest computer requirements (processor, memory, HDD space, etc) of most, if not all, professional DAWs.

                    If there's a problem with Reaper, it's more likely a problem with 3rd party plugins which may be outdated.

                    BTW, you can run plugins in their own instances, etc to help with compatibility. Just right-click on the plugin in the list (for FX) and pick how you want to run it.
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                    Last edited by LLL; 06-15-2022, 05:33 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Never had crashes with Waveform, so it might be the plugins.
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                      • #12
                        The computer is pretty old/not ideal for recording. But I bought some waves stuff and dammit I’m gonna use it lol

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                        • #13
                          Funny, I use Waves with Waveform, too, so yeah, it might be the computer.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DankStar View Post

                            I'd probably use cakewalk if my computer could handle it
                            What are the specs on your computer? Do they align with the requirements of the software you are running?


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                            • #15
                              Update: my dad is sending me one of his laptops he used to use for work (he buys expensive stuff usually lol). Going to make a switch in the coming days hopefully

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