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  • How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

    First off, I understand that I just asked "the" musical question, the one all the greats had to find out to get as far as they did. But what I want to know is what must I do to open myself up musically, my current bag of musical tricks is somewhat limited, I always find myself falling back into the same few patterns. I have a few crap "styles" that I fall back onto when I don't know what to do (single strum to accent chord changes, palm muted quarter note chords followed by a non muted half note chord) and even when I do know what to do my styles are fairly limited, my two main styles are pseudo bell choir (like Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah) and punk riffs that don't have more than 4 notes or chords.

    What can I do to expand this? I try to play songs and incorporate themes and techniques from the song into my own playing, but I can't seem to remember when it comes time to get the band together.

    Do any of y'all have experience or resources that can help me?

  • #2
    Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

    Look beyond guitar. Music is way way bigger than the tedious guitar.
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    • #3
      Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

      Originally posted by crusty philtrum View Post
      Look beyond guitar. Music is way way bigger than the tedious guitar.
      Care to elaborate?

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      • #4
        Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

        I think you're on the right track with learning other people's stuff,,,,which is sort-of like their bag of tricks.

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        • #5
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          As painful as it is for many players, jazz and classical. You may not like it but it's like buckleys. It works.

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          • #6
            Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

            Learn theory to the point where you can remember the ideas from the tunes you play better. And work on more and more complex tunes. Studying good tunes that you like is really the most important part. When you internalize enough of it, you can start to advance your own style. Can you break down a tune like Hotel California and remember the chord progression and why it works the way it does; the different background leads; the solo and what scales you can use over the chords and sections of the song.
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            • #7
              Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

              Take lessons. I’ve been playing 30 years and a few years ago I found myself in the same situation as you. I was good at the things I knew but my vocabulary was limited.
              You’ve got to be honest with yourself and assess exactly what your weaknesses are. Then find somebody that can help you overcome them.
              Believe me, it’s humbling as hell when you realize that there are aspects that you “thought” you were pretty good at until somebody points out all the bad habits. In the end it’s worth the effort.

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              • #8
                Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                Originally posted by Gtrjunior View Post
                Take lessons. I’ve been playing 30 years and a few years ago I found myself in the same situation as you. I was good at the things I knew but my vocabulary was limited.
                You’ve got to be honest with yourself and assess exactly what your weaknesses are. Then find somebody that can help you overcome them.
                Believe me, it’s humbling as hell when you realize that there are aspects that you “thought” you were pretty good at until somebody points out all the bad habits. In the end it’s worth the effort.
                I have neither the free time nor the money to do musical lessons in person, the latest I can book one where I live is 6 o'clock and I can't open any slots in my schedule before 9:00. I'm thinking about the Gibson Learn and Master Guitar DVD set. Can any of you confirm whether or not they will help me with what I'm looking for?

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                  Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                  Originally posted by '59 View Post
                  I have neither the free time nor the money to do musical lessons in person, the latest I can book one where I live is 6 o'clock and I can't open any slots in my schedule before 9:00. I'm thinking about the Gibson Learn and Master Guitar DVD set. Can any of you confirm whether or not they will help me with what I'm looking for?
                  I take Skype lessons from a guy across the country. I get the money aspect though. Good luck. I honestly feel that without lessons it’s an uphill battle.
                  You wouldn’t rip apart your cars engine without somebody showing you how first. (Bad analogy but I’m sure you get my point).

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                    Well...I have definitely expanded my musical horizon since I started converting to jazz more than 10 years ago.

                    Then I went back to my roots learning piano (I first learned organ when I was little but hated it, before taking up guitar) and converting to Chick Corea, Miles Davis and John Coltrane, ditching George Lynch, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai; learned to play Coltrane changes ('Giant Steps') on piano and that's it.

                    These days I only focus on jazz piano, occasionally listening to dumbed down music (metal, rock, blues) for fun. I feel like I am going back to first grade whenever I listen to guitar music. I don't give a f**k what anyone thinks, that's me.

                    I feel bad for my guitars though cause I don't really play them anymore, yet at the same time I don't want to play same ol' stuff like Kirk Hammett or Angus Young all my life cause I am too afraid to get out of the comfort zone.

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                    • #11
                      Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                      A looper helps. Playing with musicians from a different discipline helps, too. When you find yourself on auto-pilot, playing the same licks..stop, and never play those again. Once we shed all the stock licks we depend on, all that is left is some real work to do.
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                      • #12
                        Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                        The Gibson learn and master guitar DVD set seems pretty good. It has the main topics that you should focus on.



                        Seems like good stuff. Guides you through reading, ear training, basic chords, rhythmic concepts like strumming, pentatonic, major and minor keys, complex chords, blues, jazz. You'll for sure learn from this.

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                        • #13
                          Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                          Originally posted by Obsessive Compulsive View Post
                          Well...I have definitely expanded my musical horizon since I started converting to jazz more than 10 years ago.

                          Then I went back to my roots learning piano (I first learned organ when I was little but hated it, before taking up guitar) and converting to Chick Corea, Miles Davis and John Coltrane, ditching George Lynch, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai; learned to play Coltrane changes ('Giant Steps') on piano and that's it.

                          These days I only focus on jazz piano, occasionally listening to dumbed down music (metal, rock, blues) for fun. I feel like I am going back to first grade whenever I listen to guitar music. I don't give a f**k what anyone thinks, that's me.

                          I feel bad for my guitars though cause I don't really play them anymore, yet at the same time I don't want to play same ol' stuff like Kirk Hammett or Angus Young all my life cause I am too afraid to get out of the comfort zone.

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                          • #14
                            Re: How to Improve Musical Improvisation and Making Music In General?

                            Here you go OCD:

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                            I bought them for you

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                            • #15
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                              Yeah like I said, that's just me, I don't give a f**k if anyone disagrees.

                              Hey if you can get ahead playing blues and metal the whole time, be my guest but me...I feel I my IQ level goes down a notch.

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