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  • #16
    Re: Where to put a wah pedal

    This is why I've always loved this forum.Alot of great info!
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    • #17
      Re: Where to put a wah pedal

      Thanks

      Just making sure that my wah and my other pedal circuits are safe


      thanks guys.

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      • #18
        Re: Where to put a wah pedal

        Originally posted by rashayritto View Post
        you CAN put your wah in front of the amp but really modulation effects generally need to go in the effects loop to be at their best. wah pedals are a good example of this. as for where it should be if you run it in front: wah into distortion is more subtle sounding, and distortion into wah is more dramatic....if i remember that correctly

        running distortion into another pedal should cause no damage at all
        I have never heard of anyone putting a wah in an effects loop. Furthermore, a wah is NOT a modulation effect. It's pretty much an adjustable band pass filter (a.k.a. an EQ pedal).

        I guess you could put a wah in the effects loop, but I would only recommend doing that with a true bypass wah (i.e. NOT a Dunlop or a Morley). I have learned the hard way that effects with a crappy bypass kill your tone in the effects loop.

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        • #19
          Re: Where to put a wah pedal

          I have tried my Dunlop Crybaby from Hell in the loop of a few amps in the past and I didn't like it. The wah effect was way too subtle for my liking. In front of the amp I find you actually get a much more pronounced wah sound which is the entire reason I own a wah pedal to begin with. My effects chain is exactly as it's written in my signature.

          That said, as always you can try it in the loop and decide if you like it better there or not. The order of effects won't do anything to internal components so all your pedals should remain in perfect working order.
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          • #20
            Re: Where to put a wah pedal

            My whah is after my TS9, and yes it a lot more dramatic and expressive on top my amp just giving a much better tone this way rather than keeping whah as first pedal in the chain. If you ask Rid, he will tell you that pedals were not designed for signal level they will get from the pre-amp vs instrument level signal. My CS-9 totally changes my tone in the loop vs being the last pedal after Whah and TS9, it makes my amp a lot more cleaner but the over all tone becomes really flat and sterile. My two cents.
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            • #21
              Re: Where to put a wah pedal

              I have a tuner before all effects, is it ok to run wah wah before the tuner or should I put it right after the tuner?


              Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post
              I like to go wah -> fuzz -> phaser -> distortion -> chorus/flanger -> delay -> reverb

              Wah and Fuzz can sometimes act funny depending on other pedal's buffers. Phaser is very similar to wah, I like it before dirt, unless I'm specifically going for wild effected sounds. (Then I could go distortion -> tremolo -> phaser, etc.) Also depending on the tone I'm going for, flanger can definately be before gain, a la 70's flanger users like Gilmour and EVH.

              But yeah, wah first. and any cascading order is fine, pedals are pedals, you won't damage any of them at instrument level signals.

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              • #22
                Re: Where to put a wah pedal

                Originally posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
                You can put it anywhere...running distortion through a wah is not gonan hurt it in anyway. I run mine before dirt pedals but thats me...
                +1

                Separately, I tried both of my Wah pedals in my effects loop the other day and didn't like the result - it was way too "wet" - but it is all a matter of taste - you may like it. Give it a try.
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                • #23
                  Re: Where to put a wah pedal

                  Originally posted by harryhat View Post
                  I have a tuner before all effects, is it ok to run wah wah before the tuner or should I put it right after the tuner?
                  It is ideal to put a tuner first in the signal chain, not due to any concerns about damage (which I don't there is any risk of anyways), but because you want to give the tuner the cleanest signal you can in order to ensure accuracy of its readings.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Where to put a wah pedal

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                    • #25
                      Re: Where to put a wah pedal

                      My wah has always been at the end of my chain. I just like it that way no overly technical reason. I suggest moving it around and finding out where you like it.

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