Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Yeah, but (as I'm sure you know) comparing a standard tone to a no-load tone is not nearly the same as comparing two caps of the same value!

I'd like to try a no-load tone in a couple of my guitars. I have a new Strat that's pretty bright, and it's making me realize how dark the other one is Maybe a no-load tone in the dark one will even them out a bit.

Matt.....Actually I only use the No Load tone pots in my darker humbucking guitars like my LP and the SG...My single coil strats and Teles don't need it..And yes,good point about the comparisons...These days I can finally say,I just play and enjoy it..I spend alot more time playing now than tweaking stuff...

[mojoman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

+100 on this

i find the sprage orange as having some harsh high end. I use regular ceramic disk caps if i haven't at hand PIO caps (I like the Vitamin Q).

Wow, I have heard Billy from RS Guitarworks say the same exact thing about the Orange drops being harsh on the top end. Well at least there is 3 of us in the world that think PIO sound warmer, and smoother and provide better Tone. Maybe it's not in our imaginations after all

[mojoman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

As of right now your poll shows that 80% of the players can hear a difference between the different kind of caps of the same value??

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=179280

[Stratman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

I disagree! Most of you got it wrong...

The reason I choose higher end caps, is because I can more easily make the guitar sing.

Other than that particular reason, there is little tone difference to be heard!

[Baltar]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

tone is personal taste. mine is near fender tweed and bf era territory and sc strats only.
on a bf+strat setup, the trick is imo to achieve crisp airy highs, without being penetrant.
back to topic: i can't say much to ODs other than 715, but those sound definately
crappy to me. to be honest i did experiment more on amps than guitars. My guitars all
have old (low dc capable) mallories installed.
every amp i had some time with sounded more airy to me when i removed the 715 and
put in even cheapo wima mks or xicon pp.
however, to whoever hooks up on trying caps to find out differences should consider
to be veeery patient. depending on the materials used, caps age differently and end
up sounding different as how they did when you soldered them in.
peace
b

[mojoman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=179280

In this poll you guys started 70% of the players voted that yes they could hear a difference between different types of .022 caps, nuff said.

[mojoman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=179280

In this poll you guys started 70% of the players voted that yes they could hear a difference between different types of .022 caps, nuff said.

Wow, they actually Deleted the Poll????

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Wow, they actually Deleted the Poll????

Yep!

[mojoman]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

And why was it deleted, maybe because of the Poll results showed 70% of the players could actually tell the difference between capacitors???

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

lol y did it get deleted? ?

seriously though when i swapped the cheap stock caps for slightly better disks i did hear a difference, less mud and more clarity and overall better tone, that might have just been an improvement over the stock caps that any better cap would have done though

[James Rock]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Lew and Stratdeluxer97 seem to be copping alot about their opinions. On this forum they are two of the most informative and helpful guys here and maybe different caps do or don't make a difference I think the difference in sound pickup height makes is larger though and there are so many other things. I think this thread should be ended and the first few posts should be kept everything that is unrelated or just vicious arguments should be gone (including my post as it wouldn't be related if the arguments hadn't happened). END THREAD

[L.W. Badger]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Hmm, I wonder???

Can you hear a difference between.....

a 500K and a 300K pot?

a tube amp and a ss amp?

9's vs 10's with guitar strings?

A crappy patch cord vs a good quality one?

Eric Johnson claims to be able to hear the difference between different batteries in his pedals? (not sure about that one )

I think some of you have to big of egos to admit that someone else may actually be able to hear a difference when you cannot. Or you are afraid to admit you are not the only ones that have been tinkering and playing guitars for 30 years. I will be 49 Sunday and I still have the same wire cutters and needle nose pliers my Dad gave me when I was 12-13 years old. I learn new things everyday, but have not learned much from you guys except that the Testosterone level is very high at this forum and many of you are very close minded.

Carry on...

I don't know if anyone can, but yeah, I can hear the subtle difference's in tone......I'm 39, and my acoustics have been exposed to high-end machinery, gunfire, etc...........call it an "industrial environment".......but yeah, I can hear differences between guitar parts, pu seletions, and in general............how a person plays the gutair.

[Baltar]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

hearing capabilities are veery different from one person to another.
years ago (i didn't own a cd player these days and where amplifying radio signal)
i was playin my pa on a newyearsparty - ofcourse quite loud (for dancing waltz and such) but the pa was 3times oversized for this location.
radio signal wasn't 100% there and we had here and then some little fizz. Someone
came to me and was implying that my pa was going to clipping distortion.
i didn't dig this difference was imo amazing. but different people have different abilities

@L.W. Badger
i know exactly what you mean. i have tinnitus since army myself but still here farts through concrete what most guys don't believe.

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

I put a .022 PIO cap in place of a ceramic cap in a PRS. Tlere was a little difference, things sound a tad smoother. Not much of a change though...I am not a convert to PIO caps.

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Originally Posted by James Rock
Lew and Stratdeluxer97 seem to be copping alot about their opinions. On this forum they are two of the most informative and helpful guys here and maybe different caps do or don't make a difference I think the difference in sound pickup height makes is larger though and there are so many other things. I think this thread should be ended and the first few posts should be kept everything that is unrelated or just vicious arguments should be gone (including my post as it wouldn't be related if the arguments hadn't happened). END THREAD

Thanks James.....I too have nothing further to add to this thread...Play your guitar and enjoy yourselves!