Celestion Vintage 30's are horrible...

[sonnyblu]

My response is extreme... just so used to G12T75's Realize that some good sounding Greenbacks are in order... maybe WGS Green Berets
I can see where V30's can have there place... and even if they were not so efficient, I could mix one. I learned a lot during this post.

I knew I always liked GT75's... But now in comparison to V30's they sound like Celestion Blue's!!
I just purchased a new Egnater 4x12 loaded with V30's and thank God I've got some GT75's that I can use!
Because I think these V30's sound horrible... It's all those upper mid feq that I never want to hear! They are just ringing with 800 to 1K Yuck!
Now, If all you care about is cutting through... these will diffidently do that! and very loudly. But...

[jeremy]

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i know.

























a pair of them mixed with something else can be great though. once they break in they do sound better too. having said that, they are a good live speaker. it keeps the tone focused in a fairly narrow range which means you punch thru a mix and stay out of other instruments way. also some amps like them better than others.

some people love them, some hate them. personally they arent my thing but i dont like the 75's either

[ksmith63]

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I absolutely hate them as well.

[Invader09]

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I want to try V30's. I've heard you can't go wrong with them. I tried the GT-75's, and they were okay, but not my ideal tone. I'm a greenback guy, and from what i've heard V30's should work well for me... what do ya think ?

[sonnyblu]

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Thanks Jeremy... I was thinking about maybe leaving one of them in... but being so efficient, I thought they might still overpower all the other 3 speakers... I was kinda' wanting to mix anyway... perhaps a Cannabis Rex or Tone Tubby in there also.

[ksmith63]

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I want to try V30's. I've heard you can't go wrong with them. I tried the GT-75's, and they were okay, but not my ideal tone. I'm a greenback guy, and from what i've heard V30's should work well for me... what do ya think ?

Do you like a huge spike in the upper mids that makes everything you play sound nasal + thin? If so, then you will love the Vintage 30.

[sonnyblu]

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All the tone is VERY focused on the upper mids... if that is what you want...

I don't mean a little bit.... I mean VERY focused on I'd say 500 to 1K not even 2K! Yuck!

If you have a graphic EQ take all the middle bands a push them up... make a big frown...
There you have it.... That's a V30 basically!
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[phil_104]

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a pair of them mixed with something else can be great though. once they break in they do sound better too. having said that, they are a good live speaker. it keeps the tone focused in a fairly narrow range which means you punch thru a mix and stay out of other instruments way. also some amps like them better than others.

some people love them, some hate them. personally they arent my thing but i dont like the 75's either

I can understand why people dislike them, but they are by far my favorite speaker.

With that said, I only use them in my ''live rig'' cab. My combo at home has an eminence C90 black shadow that is more balanced, but my 2x12 has V30s.

When I shopped around, I chose this cab, because my bassist and I have great chemistry, that heavily relies on not taking up each other's space in the mix. The V30s allow me to fill in that mid-midhigh-high range, and leave the lows to him, creating a band sound that is both full, but clear and pleasant.

I agree with Jeremy that some amps do like them better, and I think mesa is one of those examples. When running higher gain, I kinda want that focus, so everything doesn't become mush.

So yeah, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[phil_104]

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Do you like a huge spike in the upper mids that makes everything you play sound nasal + thin? If so, then you will love the Vintage 30.

All the tone is VERY focused on the upper mids... if that is what you want...

I don't mean a little bit.... I mean VERY focused on I'd say 500 to 1K not even 2K! Yuck!

If you have a graphic EQ take all the middle bands a push them up... make a big frown...
There you have it.... That's a V30 basically!
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I have never had my tone sound thin or nasal. It's true that I do play through a big cab, a 2x12 rect cab, but I feel it's very balanced.

Speaking of EQs... people often say that mesa amps are very sensitive when adjusting EQ, which is maybe why they match well with that speaker.

What kind of amps are you guys using?

[RLee]

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I think out of the box they are very harsh. Broken in, a little better. Still mid/uppermid heavy though. But then again, so is a guitar!

[sonnyblu]

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I have Eminence Cannabis Rex, Texas Heat and GT75's I love all of them...
And I have played through Celestion Blue's and was very impressed.
I like Tone Tubby's also...

I mix a Marshall JTM45's and Plexi 50 watt, non master volume... Chime + Plexi
I go for a David Grissom kinda' tone.

What speakers do you like Jeremy? or anybody else here too?
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[Invader09]

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What speakers do you like Jeremy? or anybody else here too?
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Greenbacks

[poweredbysoul]

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I have them in a 2x12 mesa cab closed back and they smoke!!!
Work them in a little, I must say that they fit in a band mix perfectly!!!
This is where I think they especially shine. They definetly do not suck!!
There's a reason why alot of top players prefer them!!!

[the guy who invented fire]

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V30's are not my fav Celestion but I think they are good speakers that get a bad rap...

Interesting to point out that when Celestion designed the V30 their gold was to get a ceramic speaker that sounded like an alnico blue...

[sonnyblu]

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That is what suprized me so.... because they are basically the industry standard now....
Every new cabinet is loaded with them.... Like the GT75 used to be...
So I really wasn't expecting to dislike them so much.

I play with a 7 string bassist that covers a lot feq space also... but I don't think I want to be quite this regulated!!! lol

No, of course to each his own... ;-)
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