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  • "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

    I started talking about this project in a thread a few months ago, and now it has started to become a reality. So, I'm going to abandon that thread and start this as the actual build thread.

    This will be my next bass. All the parts are here. It is going to be an extra-long-scale early-type P ("Pre-Bass") four-string bass that will be kept in B standard tuning (down a fifth from a regular bass). The scale length will be about 36 inches, which is about two inches longer than a normal bass.

    It will be painted metallic dark gray (Fender's Charcoal Frost Metallic, originally a Lincoln color) with a black peghead face and an ebony fretboard with white plastic dots. The back of the neck will be painted to match the body, leaving no visible wood grain on the entire bass.

    Here is my "sketch" of the bass, which I posted in the other thread. A regular scale version is on top. A Photoshopped extra-long-scale version is on the bottom. The bass I am building will have the Tele Bass headstock, but it was not an option in the sketching program I used.

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    Brian Monty, in Canada, will be making the neck and doing the finishing. He will also be moving the neck pocket and bridge rearward by half the added scale length. That will help with reach and balance, as well as keeping the pickup in the same position relative to the scale length.

    The pickguard will be cut from a three-ply sheet of 1/32" black Bakelite, 1/16" white polystyrene, and another ply of 1/32" black Bakelite. This sort of sandwich does not exist pre-made, so I will be laminating the material myself, then shipping it to Brian so he can cut and lacquer the guard. The old '50's-style finger rest (which I'll be making out of maple) will be placed as my preferred thumb rest instead; it will be painted to match the body, as was done on the originals (I love that look).

    The pickup will be a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder single-coil P-Bass pickup, which I already have. It will have an on-board Seymour Duncan pre-amp (already installed on the control plate in this picture), which will give me +/- bass and treble controls. Instead of a volume knob, it will have a three-way switch that gives the choice of: 1) on at full output, 2) on with a slight cut in output, and 3) off. I almost always use a volume knob as an on/off switch anyhow, and the switch's off position will also let me shut off the battery without having to unplug the bass.

    The bridge is a Hipshot A4 for Fender. The tuners are all-chrome Hipshot Ultralite Lollypops; and I'm having to piece together the tuners in order to get that. Hipshot no longer manufacture anything with a chrome finish; they've gone to nickel only. Unfortunately for me, I want all the hardware on the bass to be matching chrome. Additionally, the normal Ultralite housings are matte, not shiny. All-chrome is an uncommon option. And as I mentioned, chrome is no longer being produced, so I am limited to old stock. I had no luck finding a retailer with all-chrome lollypops NOS. All I could find were regular lollypops, and all-chrome cloverleafs or Y-keys. So I bought a set of regular lollypops, and a set of all-chrome cloverleafs, and will be swapping the keys between the two types. I'll be left with a set of regular cloverleafs (which I will either keep for future use, or sell).

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    Last edited by ItsaBass; 01-27-2015, 11:01 PM.
    Originally posted by LesStrat
    Yogi Berra was correct.
    Originally posted by JOLLY
    I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

  • #2
    Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

    That'll be sharp!

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    • #3
      Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

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      • #4
        Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

        really nice. Like your style
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        • #5
          Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

          Just an update: NOTHING has happened since my last post. Brian Monty has not written or called with any updates. I've got to call up and razz him a bit and see what's up. I want to play this ***** already!
          Originally posted by LesStrat
          Yogi Berra was correct.
          Originally posted by JOLLY
          I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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          • #6
            Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

            I've been G.A.Sing for a 5 string. But seeing this... But I would go for a different pickup config.

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            • #7
              Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

              There's something to be said for simplicity, but I would do a different pickup arrangement also.
              Originally posted by DrNewcenstein
              To understand the idiot, you must think like an idiot.

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              • #8
                Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                Originally posted by BlueTalon View Post
                There's something to be said for simplicity, but I would do a different pickup arrangement also.
                Dual SCPBs?

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                • #9
                  Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                  I heard back from Brian. He just fell way behind and forgot to let me know. Hopefully it won't be another six months until this thing is actually an instrument.
                  Originally posted by LesStrat
                  Yogi Berra was correct.
                  Originally posted by JOLLY
                  I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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                  • #10
                    "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                    P.S. You are all of course welcome to make your own variations on this basic idea. But I know what I want for this project, and that's what I'm going to do. The number of pick ups and the pick up location will never be an issue for me. If anything, I might just put a regular P-Bass Quarter Pounder pick up in there if I don't like the single coil one.
                    Originally posted by LesStrat
                    Yogi Berra was correct.
                    Originally posted by JOLLY
                    I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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                    • #11
                      "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                      P.P.S. The really stupid part of this whole thing is that the songs that gave me the idea for this bass in the first place are no longer being played! The guitarist in that band moved up to Portland, and the rest of us took it as a good opportunity to go ahead and disband. I certainly wasn't into it anymore, so I'm happy with that. But I'm going to go ahead and finish the project anyhow. It just won't be a high priority thing any more. It will just be a low register bass that I'll keep around for fun here and there, not for any particular "professional" use.
                      Last edited by ItsaBass; 08-05-2015, 09:45 PM.
                      Originally posted by LesStrat
                      Yogi Berra was correct.
                      Originally posted by JOLLY
                      I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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                      • #12
                        Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                        Originally posted by dg27 View Post
                        Dual SCPBs?
                        Me? Nah. If I'm building a custom bass, I want to do something well off the beaten path. My first has three J pickups. Right now I'm kicking around the idea of a bass with four split-P pickups.
                        Originally posted by DrNewcenstein
                        To understand the idiot, you must think like an idiot.

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                        • #13
                          Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                          Originally posted by ItsaBass View Post
                          It will just be a low register bass that I'll keep around for fun here and there, not for any particular "professional" use.
                          I doubt that. A bass that gorgeous? I'm sure you'll find a professional use for it.
                          Originally posted by DrNewcenstein
                          To understand the idiot, you must think like an idiot.

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                          • #14
                            Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                            Finally getting back to this project. I made the necessary mod to the body (routed control cavity through to the back in order to accommodate easy battery swaps), did the button swaps on the tuners, and drilled the control plate for the toggle switch. Today I laminated the custom pickguard material: 1/16" white polystyrene sandwiched between two plies of 1/32" Garolite (a modern brand name for what used to be called Bakelite). The edges will be rounded over with a radius the same width as the material. This is the final step before boxing everything up and sending it to Brian for painting and assembly.

                            Here's a few pics of the laminating press that I put together. It's not ideal, but I did what I could with what I have in my shop. I also have plenty of excess material, so I can keep trying for a nice tight and flat lamination if this doesn't work. Hope it works!

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                            Last edited by ItsaBass; 05-07-2018, 08:32 PM.
                            Originally posted by LesStrat
                            Yogi Berra was correct.
                            Originally posted by JOLLY
                            I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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                            • #15
                              Re: "Official" build thread: extra-long-scale Pre-Bass

                              Wow- short of producing the plastic yourself it'd be difficult to get more DIY for a pickguard.
                              Originally posted by King Buzzo
                              I love when people come up to me and say “Your guitar sound was better on Stoner Witch, when you used a Les Paul. “...I used a Fender Mustang reissue on that, dumbass!

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