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    Default Bass Preamp / Direct question

    Guys - I'm going to need to run a bass direct into a PA.

    What do you suggest? I need said bass to make bass sounds. I'd like the ability to tailor the sound a bit, but at the end of the day, basic bass is what I need.

    Effects might be nice, along with an array of standard bass tones (Rock, Metal, Classic Rock, Blues maybe….)

    What do you suggest that is

    a) Cheap (< $100)
    b) Simple

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    Eden WTDI? Reviews all seem pretty decent and I've seen them on Amazon for $95 if you have Prime.

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    I would just run direct from a decent compressor.

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    Any active DI will do the trick. The sound engineer usually then tailors the frequencies to fit the room.
    However...that's not much fun running a dry string sound into the FOH and hoping for something nice to come back to you via the foldback.
    If you want a little more control over the tones and add some grit and compression as if you were running thru a nice old ampeg or something, then have a look at the sansamp BDDI. It is a swiss army knife for bassists because:
    1. It is a high quality DI even when not engaged.
    2. It can be used purely as an active eq.
    3. You can dial in overdrive, cab sim and presence as you like.
    4. You can blend in any amount of the above with your clean tone.
    5. You can do all of this via various outputs (ie, clean to FOH, effected to FOH, effect to FOH and clean to your amp, both/either/neither, and also choose the output impedances of your XLR and unbalanced outputs)
    Basically, it allows you to do everything you need to get a killer bass tone in any room with any system whether you are using your own amp, purely direct or a combination of both. Kicks ass for recording too.

    Other options are the MXR bass di (cheaper i think) and the aguilar bass hammer.
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    Looked at the Sansamp. Programmable or the one button?

    Pushing my price range…but quality is quality.

    What about a used Digitech RP or a Bass POD or something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demanic View Post
    I would just run direct from a decent compressor.

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    Used Line 6 Bass POD.

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    The SansAmp demos I've heard have been awesome. I'd need some EQ if going straight into the PA, and for rock a little grit is good to help cut through the mix too.

    Can you get a used SansAmp in your budget?
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    I'd go with the pre-owned Sansamp too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    Looked at the Sansamp. Programmable or the one button?
    They are the same pedal really, so get whichever is cheaper. My bass playing buddy tried it and loved it so much he bought himself the programmable one although he rarely uses the switchable functions. He reckons he doesnt know how he played bass all those years without one. Its a good investment even if you only use it for home (or even studio) recording. Instant bass tone that you can eq to fit the mix while you listen in the monitors. For live, it is the most useful thing (apart from the bass) that you can bring with you.
    I dont think the "character series" ones have all the flexibility in terms of outs, impedances and configurations, so keep your eye on the black ones.
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    I was just thinking if using it live, the switching might be nice. Not that I'd be using it.

    Do you really use more than one bass tone in a metal band?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    I was just thinking if using it live, the switching might be nice. Not that I'd be using it.

    Do you really use more than one bass tone in a metal band?
    I do. Sometimes I need a distorted bass sound, and sometimes I need a clean bass sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    Do you really use more than one bass tone in a metal band?
    For a cover band, if the guitarists go to a bassless JB/Dave Mustaine guitar tone you'll need a comparable Dave Ellefson bass tone. If they switch guitars or pedal/rack patches to a more bassy tone, you'll want to keep from making it muddy, so a different EQ curve would work better, and be easier/cheaper than carrying multiple basses.
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    I'll third or fourth the suggestion of the Sansamp, but the MXR pre/DI would do you pretty well, too.

    Pretty sure the SansAmp will take a grit pedal in front of it, if you need it.


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    Always, always, ALWAYS have a Whirlwind IMP 2 passive direct box in the bass case. If the soundman wants to use his fancy, state-of-the-art active DI, let him... but when all else fails, all batteries die, and all grounds loop, the IMP 2 will get the bass signal split between the stage amp and the PA. Some compression and EQ at the board should get you a decent sound.

    If you want more than that, one of the Sans Amps will add some grunt. The Catalinbread SFT is a good Ampeg-in-a-box, too. I built a clone on a Catalinbread-approved, Madbean-manufactured PC board for my son. It's an easy build and sounds great.
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    Yeah - that MXR box looks cool too.
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    Well Here is my current list:

    #1 The MXR - cheap, plus a Distortion on/off

    #2 The Sansamp - nice overall, but only 1 button. Got a Distortion pedal rec to add to it?

    #3 There is an Ampeg Pedal that looks very cool with Distortion button….a little more pricey.

    Also considered a Digitech BP90….way more crap than I want, but for farting around at home, it would seem to do it all plus effects and a pedal….
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    Default Re: Bass Preamp / Direct question

    If you went into a studio, the engineer would probably just hook you up to a Countryman or Radial DI. Very inexpensive....

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    I think the Radial Bassbone has two chanels.

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    Hey - any love for a Bass Floor POD???

    If not that - I'm going for the MXR
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