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  • #16
    Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

    Originally posted by Demanic View Post
    OK, I challenge you. What practical problem was solved by discovering the details of gravity? People built structures for millennia without understanding the definitions of Newton's laws. Why did he bother researching them? Same could be said of Pythagoras.

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    It was to explain the motion of planets that people had observed prior but were unable to explain why things moved in the patterns they saw.

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    • #17
      Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

      Yes, but why? To improve navigation? They already knew the practical periods, just not why. But navigation worked none the less.

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      • #18
        Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

        Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
        Yeah, except scientific discovery starts with an actual problem to solve. This is just a hammer in search of a nail that doesn't exist.
        Discovery for discovery's sake, then. No need to be so cynical about someone fiddling around with some extra guitar pickups.
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        • #19
          Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

          You never know, he might come up with something good.

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          • #20
            Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

            Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
            Yeah, except scientific discovery starts with an actual problem to solve. This is just a hammer in search of a nail that doesn't exist.
            By definition, in order for something to be a scientific discovery, it has to follow the scientific method. You have to posit a question ("What would happen if I placed an electric guitar pickup over the strings as well as under it?"), formulate a hypothesis ("The guitar will sound brighter." for example), test out your theory with an experiment that is easily copied and where only one variable is manipulated (the one variable being the addition of an extra pickup over the strings), observe the results, and then retest in order to see if those results were consistent or the result of a fluke.

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            • #21
              Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

              Originally posted by Johnny the Kid View Post
              By definition, in order for something to be a scientific discovery, it has to follow the scientific method. You have to posit a question ("What would happen if I placed an electric guitar pickup over the strings as well as under it?"), formulate a hypothesis ("The guitar will sound brighter." for example), test out your theory with an experiment that is easily copied and where only one variable is manipulated (the one variable being the addition of an extra pickup over the strings), observe the results, and then retest in order to see if those results were consistent or the result of a fluke.

              Leevc5 followed the scientific method, therefore he made a scientific discovery.
              Right. The hypothesis was he'd get twice as many sound options by doubling up pickups and the discovery was "it is not doing anything remotely like what I expected", and I think post #2 might be a clue why.

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              • #22
                Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                I still want to hear the results. Especially the off the hinge ones.

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                • #23
                  Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                  Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
                  Right. The hypothesis was he'd get twice as many sound options by doubling up pickups and the discovery was "it is not doing anything remotely like what I expected", and I think post #2 might be a clue why.
                  Hypotheses are proven wrong quite often after testing. The beauty of the scientific method is that we can take the new information we have and form a new hypothesis and start testing an exploring that new hypothesis. Post #2 may very well be a clue why it didn't sound anything like what he expected, but there's nothing that says that it couldn't be a sound that he hates and won't utilize anyways.
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                  • #24
                    Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                    Ok. But if it were me, first I would fix the reverse stagger on the bridge saddles so the thing plays in tune, before trying to discover new tones with the neck pickup. But to each his own.

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                    • #25
                      Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                      Originally posted by Demanic View Post
                      You never know, he might come up with something good.

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                      He already did. This would be number 1 in "World's Dumbest: The Most Thought-fool Invention of the 21st Century". Or maybe Seth MacFarlane can adapt this 'invention' to spice up Stewie's time machine.

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                      • #26
                        Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                        I have been thinking about this for my pickup test recordings. A suction mount of some sorts. I wouldn't have regular mounted pickups, though.

                        The magnetic field issue probably has to be looked at on a pickup to pickup basis. If they don't have side-by-side bobbins then obviously you could pick polarity so that it adds, not cancels.

                        Humbuckers you could partially overlap so that two bobbins on top of each other add, the others being away from each other. I would expect that to work to a certain degree. If it didn't then a regular humbucker wouldn't work either.

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                        • #27
                          Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

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                          • #28
                            Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                            In a strange way, this is sort of how an Ebow works. I have 2 I use all the time.
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                            • #29
                              Re: what would the result be if you added pickups over the strings?

                              The pickup over the strings will be out of phase with what it would be under the strings so you would have to reverse the leads or flip the magnet.

                              It also seems that with magnets below and above, whether repelling or attracting, it would really jack around with the strings' vibration and cut sustain a bit.
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                              • #30
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