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    Default Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    For Christmas, I decided to indulge a bit and get myself a vintage Gibson SG. After a bit of searching, I found a pretty solid deal on an all original (with the exception of the knobs, which are period correct but the wrong color) 1968 Gibson SG Special. I love the guitar but my one qualm is the impossibility to get the G string to intonate with an unwound G string.

    So that raises the question: Should I start purchasing string sets with a wound G for this guitar, or should I purchase an aftermarket adjustable bridge and keep the original in the case?

    I am curious to hear your opinions

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Have you got the tailpiece decked
    As low as it will go?

    Raise it up just a bit
    Not level but so that the string isn't making such a tight angle over the bridge
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    Default Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Depends on your playing preference, I guess. If wound intonates and you like playing that gauge, then go for it. If its too heavy for your fingers, then an aftermarket is an easy, non-destructive fix. I have a pigtail adjustable wraparound on my kit-built LP Junior, and it works a treat.


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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Unless you love the look of the original why not drop in an adjustable one? There are a lot of options, including a couple that look very similar to the plain stop bar style.
    I played an SG Speciak for years that had a Badass bridge. Perfect intonation, no alteration to the guitar.

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    That's not an uncommon problem. A simple fix is to replace the nut with a compensated nut...it (among other things) changes the scale length of the "G" string. You will find that it not only intonates better, but will play more in tune all along the fretboard.
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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Have you got the tailpiece decked
    As low as it will go?

    Raise it up just a bit
    Not level but so that the string isn't making such a tight angle over the bridge
    The issue isn't the action, it's just because the vintage tailpieces are compensated for wound G strings.

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna try a set of strings with a wound G first, but if I don't like them (which I probably won't because I like bending), I'll search for a used replacement. Thanks for the replies!

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by JDawg0427 View Post
    The issue isn't the action, it's just because the vintage tailpieces are compensated for wound G strings.
    I misunderstood the OP

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    http://www.mannmadeusa.com/products/...tail-bridge-2/

    Check out the Mannmade products. He's worked with PRS and the adjustable wraptail bridges on them (for years) have been his.
    This one (link) is for Gibson guitars.

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    There are compensated wraparound bridges that look like stock, I believe. I've got an adjustable one on the way for my SG, though.

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    There is the lightning bolt tailpiece that Gibson used which is a possibility, and for very vintage correct with subtle compensation there is the Mojoaxe tailpiece. And of course as suggested there are fully adjustable TOM stlye wrap t/p variants of all types available with huge adjustment possibility.
    It all depends on your ear and how far it is out as to where you want to go.

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    If you are trying to go super low-buck (you mentioned looking for a used bridge) I have two Chinese wraparounds; you can have one if you want. Or just buy one of eBay for less than 20 bucks.

    There is also the Guitar Fetish lightning bar that is compensated for an unwound G for $15 plus shipping: https://www.guitarfetish.com/Les-Pau...dge_p_449.html

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    There's plenty of lightning bolt plain-G compensated tailpieces around. I think these are superior to all the added mass of the adjustable types IMHO.

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    Default Re: Problems with vintage Gibson wrap tailpiece

    I put one of these on my SG Junior build and couldn't be happier. I had one of the Wilkinson adjustable bridges from Guitarfetish but it was always a bit off no matter what I did and decided to go fully adjustable. The improvement on the tone is great too.

    https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and...nd_Bridge.html


    There's also a lightning bolt wraparound designed for unwound G strings.

    https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and...nd_Bridge.html

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