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  • #16
    Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

    I *love* learning new things, btw. Super cool with that...there is a lot I don't know, so I appreciate y'all filling in gaps.
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    • #17
      Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

      LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!
      Originally posted by Bad City
      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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      • #18
        Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

        isnt it time for the squirrels to do that for ya?

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        • #19
          Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

          So now that the is-the-prail-rail-the-same-as-a-hotrail side discussion is concluded, can anyone chime in on the OP's original question: who here runs the 2 rail coils in series and how do they sound? Too bright?
          I myself am preparing to install a set of p-rails in a guitar soon and that combination is one of interest to me.. as well as those 2 in parallel w each other...
          Last edited by Jack_TriPpEr; 06-07-2019, 04:03 AM.
          Sanford: "The hardest part about tone chasing is losing the expectations associated with the hardware."

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          • #20
            Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

            Just as an FYI:

            P-Rails:
            P-90 n - 7.19k
            Rails n - 5.52k

            P-90 b - 10.16k
            Rails b - 8.47k

            HotRails n, one coil - 5.45k
            HotRails b, one coil - 8.3k

            So it's definitely possible that the P-Rails could use HR n/b coils. But as Alex said, it's ceramic in the HR and A5 in the P-Rails.
            Last edited by ArtieToo; 06-07-2019, 09:51 AM.

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            • #21
              Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

              In parallel, they sound really good. I haven't tried them in series, but I imagine they would sound a bit overdriven and muddy. But I'm more into clean tones these days so I might be a bit prejudiced.
              Originally Posted by IanBallard
              Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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              • #22
                Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                Originally posted by ArtieToo View Post
                Ya know, an HSH axe, with P-Rail/Hotrail/P-Rail, could be a cool experiment. If I ever get around to installing mine I want to do some switch matrix where I can try every combo.
                I’ve got a half baked design for this, along with a super switch and S-1 switch. Life got crazy and I never got around to investigating further since I didn’t get the pickups. If I had time it would be fun...

                Basically with S-1 up I was planning on a JEM style (Auto split, combine with split HR) and with it down I was planning on the permutations of the P90 coils and rails.
                Oh no.....


                Oh Yeah!

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                • #23
                  Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                  Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post
                  If I had time it would be fun...
                  Your time, my inclination. I've got about the same idea. Too many irons in the fire. And the fire's smoldering.

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                  • #24
                    Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                    Originally posted by ArtieToo View Post
                    Just as an FYI:

                    P-Rails:
                    P-90 n - 7.19k
                    Rails n - 5.52k

                    P-90 b - 10.16k
                    Rails b - 8.47k

                    HotRails n, one coil - 5.45k
                    HotRails b, one coil - 8.3k

                    So it's definitely possible that the P-Rails could use HR n/b coils. But as Alex said, it's ceramic in the HR and A5 in the P-Rails.
                    Good post.

                    It would be nice for S.D. to put this info on the Website.
                    Originally posted by LesStrat
                    Yogi Berra was correct.
                    Originally posted by JOLLY
                    I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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                    • #25
                      Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                      I agree - they are a touch bright. But there is this thing called a tone knob, and it clears that right up!
                      Originally posted by Bad City
                      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                      • #26
                        Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                        P-Rails in Triple Shots, 2V2T '50s wiring, with pull phase and pickups-in-series/parallel switch. Now what to do with the other 2 possible pull pots... And the Freeway Switch 6-way toggle?

                        Blower switch(es), maybe? Quick switch to bridge in series (or parallel, could wire it either way)... Maybe a switch from tone to spin-a-split for each pickup?

                        Like a BC Rich Bich or Mockingbird overflowing with controls, except with every control multi-function so it keeps a classic appearance aside from the pickups...

                        Then there's magnets. A8 for bridge railside, RCA5 for P-90? Maybe A9 for neck rail, A4 for P-90?
                        Last edited by Despair; 06-10-2019, 06:07 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Re: P Rails, inner rails in series?

                          freeway do blades (6& 10 pos)now, So you could do all strat buckers split on one side, and bridge inners both outers neck on the other side and have an s1 that puts the bridge and neck in series out of phase. That might be my ideal wiring if posssible.

                          I made this post because i tend to find the sound of both rails really cool but very bright so maybe series would help them work with more amps/tones

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