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    Default Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    I have a 2007 Chambered Gibson Rainforest studio LP that plays fantastic but after various pickup and mag changes it needs some real ass .
    Tried 490/498's , 59's , 59/Hybrid , and various mag changes from AII's to A5's without going to drastic in string pull and the bridge pickup still lacks low end .
    For the neck pickup I've settled on the 59 , it balances out real fine clean or dirty .
    I prefer a bridge pickup to be in the 9-12k range if possible .

    Any suggestions for a fat sounding bridge pickup to go with a chambered body LP but still have a nice balanced tone to it ?

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Check out the Whole Lotta Humbuckers, The Saturday Night Special, or even the Custom on the high range. None of these lack low end, and sound great across many gain ranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Check out the Whole Lotta Humbuckers, The Saturday Night Special, or even the Custom on the high range. None of these lack low end, and sound great across many gain ranges.
    Will the short legs on the Saturday Night Special work for the bridge position on my LP and still be able to move the PU close to the strings ?

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    The Custom 5 also has A LOT of low-end.

    I personally wouldn't recomend the WLH here. It's a killer pickup, but I feel it has less low-end than the '59.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Alt8 will get you there. Also the Custom (if you like ceramic magnets), or the Custom 8, or Custom 5 are good choices as well.
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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Only mag I have not tried is a UOA5 , will that add some bass or smooth out the top end enough in the 59/hybrid to fatten it up ?

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    I have a 2006 that I tried many, many pickups in. I settled on the 59/Custom with A4, but I see you've ruled that pickup out. Maybe try something with A8 magnets? I tried A8 in a 59b, and it was very thick. I just didn't like the feel of it.

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    Double thick A2
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesIsBlood12 View Post
    I have a 2006 that I tried many, many pickups in. I settled on the 59/Custom with A4, but I see you've ruled that pickup out. Maybe try something with A8 magnets? I tried A8 in a 59b, and it was very thick. I just didn't like the feel of it.
    I have not completely ruled out the A4 yet , just want to see what other options are out there .

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    For more ass you need more mass!

    A pickup only replicates what is already there.

    Heavier tuners like grovers, long steel studs, brass stoptailpiece.
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    The PATB 3 was designed to give floyd guitars the punch of a Les Paul.

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    My 8.1k Fralin bridge with the double thick A2 sounds pretty solid and almost fat. If you were to put a double thick A2 in a medium or hot hb, it would be fat as ****.
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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Check out the Whole Lotta Humbuckers, The Saturday Night Special, or even the Custom on the high range. None of these lack low end, and sound great across many gain ranges.
    I don't think I'd agree with the SNS for adding low end. They seem to have less than any of the other Duncans I've used with the exception of the full shred neck.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Go with the Custom. It's the right pickup for a Les Paul.

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    Mayhem set.

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    You might try an A8 in your Hybrid. Another thought that comes to mind is DiMarzio's The Breed; they've stopped making them but some online dealers still have 'em in stock.
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    Duncan Distortion, for the OP problem.
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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Quote Originally Posted by hamerfan View Post
    For more ass you need more mass!
    Incorrect. Heavy guitars have a thinner sound by nature. They sustain longer, but do not have more bass response.

    A pickup only replicates what is already there.
    Incorrect, to a degree. Pickups are not microphones. Their only concern is for what happens inside their magnetic field. While you can find a pickup whose amplified output tone matches the acoustic tone of the instrument, you can also find a pickup that has a noticeably different amplified output tone than the acoustic tone.

    Heavier tuners like grovers, long steel studs, brass stoptailpiece.
    Mass = sustain. Fathead-brand brass headstock plates used to be a thing for that, for LPs and Strats. Kramer had a model that had steel rods you could slide into cavities in the body to increase sustain. A doubleneck does not have a deeper tone than a single-neck, despite being almost twice the weight.

    I had a 490R/500T in my LP Standard and had no shortage of low-end from either one. However, I also had a rack unit with an EQ curve set to accentuate the bass frequencies.

    What other guitars do you have, and what do you play through? You cannot run different guitars through the same rig with the same settings and get the same sounds. If you've got an LP and a Strat, and your amp is set for the Strat, it's not set for the Paul.
    This is fundamental.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    DiMarzio Breed.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Gibson chambered LP needs more ass .

    Dimarzio Super Distortion is certainly full. If that's not enough there is the bottom-heavy Tone Zone.

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