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  • #16
    Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

    Originally posted by dudiluty View Post
    Just get a fender if you want a fender sound.
    Are you saying the Fender sound is the Fender amp not the Fender guitar?

    Those are two different things

    Fender amps are bright clean by comparison to Marshall or British amps

    Fender guitar sounds are the jangly bright sngle coil sound
    Gibson is the thick darker humbucker

    I still don't follow what you mean by

    Play your Fender amp with either a Les Paul, or a Strat gives you a Fender sound because it's a Fender amp

    The strat will sound much different than the Les Paul through that amp
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    • #17
      Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

      I think you don't understand me. Maybe it's my English writing... Lol. I'm from the Netherlands so it could be that haha


      I mean that I you want a fender sound.. you have to play on a fender guitar.
      So a amp doesn't really matter.
      Last edited by dudiluty; 01-18-2020, 09:27 AM.

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      • #18
        Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

        Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
        If you ask me, the real "Fender sound" is the Fender amps that so often got paired with Fender guitars back in the day, not the guitars themselves.
        NO. Not even close.

        I've got many amps that can be adjusted to sound similar to a Fender amp, but very few guitars (other then Strat copies) can duplicate that Strat sound. A Les Paul played through a Fender amp will NEVER sound like a Strat. But a Strat played through just about any amp will still sound like a Strat. And with the right amp settings (and possibly stomps) a Strat can also sound similar to a LP.
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        Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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        • #19
          Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

          Originally posted by GuitarDoc View Post
          NO. Not even close.

          I've got many amps that can be adjusted to sound similar to a Fender amp, but very few guitars (other then Strat copies) can duplicate that Strat sound. A Les Paul played through a Fender amp will NEVER sound like a Strat. But a Strat played through just about any amp will still sound like a Strat. And with the right amp settings (and possibly stomps) a Strat can also sound similar to a LP.
          That.

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          • #20
            Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

            Originally posted by dudiluty View Post
            I think you don't understand me. Maybe it's my English writing... Lol. I'm from the Netherlands so it could be that haha


            I mean that I you want a fender sound.. you have to play on a fender guitar.
            So a amp doesn't really matter.
            Thank you
            That must have been what it was

            Apparently I wasn't the only one confused

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            • #21
              Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

              Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
              If you ask me, the real "Fender sound" is the Fender amps that so often got paired with Fender guitars back in the day, not the guitars themselves.
              Well. this is pretty true -I'd argue that huge part of the " Fender Amp sound" is the Fender Single coil pickup interaction and sparkle with the full range scoop of the classic Fender Amp.
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              • #22
                Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                Originally posted by GuitarDoc View Post
                I've got many amps that can be adjusted to sound similar to a Fender amp, but very few guitars (other then Strat copies) can duplicate that Strat sound. A Les Paul played through a Fender amp will NEVER sound like a Strat. But a Strat played through just about any amp will still sound like a Strat. And with the right amp settings (and possibly stomps) a Strat can also sound similar to a LP.
                NO. Not even close.

                You are misinterpreting my post. The classic "Fender sound" comes from using a Fender guitar and amp (preferably dialled to 6) in tandem. That is not to say you can't get a good tone from each on their own, but the iconic Strat/Tele tones come from using both.

                The Gibson rock and roll tone has become more ambiguous. Just about any humbucker paired with a Marshall-y amp will fit somebody's definition of the Gibson sound. For me it's medium hot A5 humbuckers through a JCM800, for others it may be an A2 PAF pushing a Bluesbreaker to the edge of breakup.
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                • #23
                  Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                  One thing is that covers bands will likely play long sets, so get something ergonomically balanced and light, or you will have some issues later. I can make any guitar work for a particular song, but halfway through set 4, I will wish I picked the lightest guitar.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                    All signs point towards a PRS Custom. Wire that bad boy with a Jazz-59/Custom set and coil splits and you're good to go.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                      Sort of related, it's long proven that only a gear ratio of 12:1 is necessary to dial an instrument in to the proper accuracy IF the player has properly developed their ear and tunes up (not down) to lock the gear mesh into place. These crazy high ratios some companies tout are just something to market -there was a company in the 00s that had like a 30:1 gear ratio using 2 worm drives I believe instead of a planetary or something like that.

                      The real measure of a Machine Head is manufacturing quality for how the gears interact and remain in place -and thats ALL machining and parts matching quality. It's why high end shops like Sperzell doesn't make gearing high than 12:1 -because shoot out after shoot has proven that larger gears are easier to manufacture perfectly and hold tune better and can be dial accurately.

                      So if a company use gear ratio to tout their machine heads as better than other companies -don't assume it's a good thing without further research on the quality of the tuner. And this is not to say higher ratio tuners can't be great or easier for some to dial in, just that it's not required for the top quality choice of machine heads.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                        Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                        So many things here; First if you have that gear and are in a 70's/80's cover band and can play all those tunes, why can't you pick a guitar?!?!?!? I'm a little confused at what you need help for here???

                        And, what does the OTHER guitar player have/do? Are you all rhythm, or do you play leads also?

                        Example: In my band (80's hair tribute) we both play leads. Just depends on who is "feeling" that solo and the nature of the beast. Since I Play LP types (dean Cadillacs, or V's) I usually do Sweet Child, Whitesnake (Sykes played a Les Paul) etc. The other guy plays Ibanez mostly, so anything stray or whammy he usually does. Between the two of us, we cover whatever is needed.

                        But for all around flexibility, I'd be getting an HSH Ibanez to play whatever. A humbucker loaded, Floyded Strat can play any of that. An SG or a Les Paul, not so much. But again...since there is another guitar player, what does he do? If you play rhythm only, no need for a whammy. If he is a Strat guy, I'll say SG or PRS on principle.
                        Sorry I was just trying to get some input and guidance it;s just hard to decide what I want to get for a next electric guitar as there is so many choices out there! To answer some of your qestions, yes me and the other guitarist both do rhythm and leads. My other guitarist also usually does anything requiring whammy but I'm not 100% opposed to doing anything requiring whammy. He also uses newer Ibanez Premium JEM's (I'm pretty sure he has all of them in the Premium JEM series! He loves them!) through Line 6 Relay G55 (Live) then into the newest version of the Marshall DSL100 head through a Bugera slant 4x12 with a mix of Celestions Vintage 30's and G12K100's through a Line 6 POD HD500 for just effects.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                          Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
                          All signs point towards a PRS Custom. Wire that bad boy with a Jazz-59/Custom set and coil splits and you're good to go.
                          I don't know if I can afford a Core line Custom but maybe a S2 Custom 22 and wire it with the pickups you mentioned does sound good!!
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                          Mesa Tremoverb 2x12 cab (factory Vintage 30's) converted to closed back
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                          • #28
                            Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                            Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                            So many things here; First if you have that gear and are in a 70's/80's cover band and can play all those tunes, why can't you pick a guitar?!?!?!? I'm a little confused at what you need help for here???

                            And, what does the OTHER guitar player have/do? Are you all rhythm, or do you play leads also?

                            Example: In my band (80's hair tribute) we both play leads. Just depends on who is "feeling" that solo and the nature of the beast. Since I Play LP types (dean Cadillacs, or V's) I usually do Sweet Child, Whitesnake (Sykes played a Les Paul) etc. The other guy plays Ibanez mostly, so anything stray or whammy he usually does. Between the two of us, we cover whatever is needed.

                            But for all around flexibility, I'd be getting an HSH Ibanez to play whatever. A humbucker loaded, Floyded Strat can play any of that. An SG or a Les Paul, not so much. But again...since there is another guitar player, what does he do? If you play rhythm only, no need for a whammy. If he is a Strat guy, I'll say SG or PRS on principle.
                            Me and the other guitarist both do rhythm and leads. My other guitarist also usually does anything requiring whammy but I'm not 100% opposed to doing anything requiring whammy. He also uses newer Ibanez Premium Steve Vai JEM's (I'm pretty sure he has all of them in the Premium JEM series! He loves them!) through Line 6 Relay G55 (Live) then into the newest version of the Marshall DSL100 head through a Bugera slant 4x12 with a mix of Celestions Vintage 30's and G12K100's through a Line 6 POD HD500 for just effects.
                            Charvel Model-5fx EMG 85/SA
                            Epiphone Les Paul Custom Korean SD JB/Jazz
                            Custom Made Ernie Ball Musicman Copy Dimarzio Super Distortion's
                            2019 EVH 5150 III 50 Watt Head 6L6
                            1995 Mesa Boogie Tremoverb converted to Head
                            Mesa Tremoverb 2x12 cab (factory Vintage 30's) converted to closed back
                            Marshall 1960A 4x12 (2 Celestion G12T-75's and 2 WGS Retro 30's X patterned
                            Pedaltrain Mini: Currently on pedalboard: ModTone MT-CB Clean Boost, Zoom MS-70CDR, Korg Pitchblack Tuner)

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                            • #29
                              Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                              Welcome back!

                              If the other guy is getting his Steve Vai on with the JEM, I'd definitely be going for something more "classic" and darker. Maybe a an ESP/LTD EC1000? Can get those with and without Floyd. I prefer to live my life without whammy bars. More hassle than worth to me - but that's me. As mentioned earlier, a cool switching PRS perhaps. Or just a classic Les Paul. Something to really "balls up" the sound. I'd be looking for that low-mid grind area maybe.

                              Think Gillis/Watson...
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                              • #30
                                Re: Good Electric Guitar For Covers Band

                                Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
                                All signs point towards a PRS Custom. Wire that bad boy with a Jazz-59/Custom set and coil splits and you're good to go.
                                That or a Carvin Kiesel and own both. The Hybrid Jazz is a good combo but I prefer the Sentient in the neck. Fatter smoother bigger Humbucking tone and a MUCH better split tone. Together split the Hybrid/Sentient is simply fantastic!!
                                This is a Hybrid / Sentinet both Split running my Carvin DC 400 through my old Carvin X50 B and this guitar also has some MONSTER full hum-bucking tones!!
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