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    How do you go about this?
    My boards have fuzz first, then vibe, then buffered tuner and a compressor.

    ODs come after that: a hot lead drive for cut/chunk, and a TS/klone type for mid push/liquid parts. These can be combined.

    Chorus next, and then a transparent OD right before the foundation drives, as a "more" pedal for extra drive & compression without changing the overall character. It's like goosing the preamp gain on your head for certain tunes. (I like having chorus in the middle because I can get three flavors that way: cleaner/swirly with minimal drive, studio-glassy 80s chorus with OD in front, or a more ragged organic richness with drive mostly after chorus, like the old days when I was running my chorus into a driven amp.)

    I have two foundation drives - generally one American flavored and one British, before delay & reverb. I plug different pedals into these spots depending on whether I want midgain Plexi & brownface tones, or hotter JCM & driven-blackface tones. But normally it's one Marshall and one Fender type. They're not too gained-up so I can hit both without mud if I want to. (The later pedal seems to affect the final sound more, so American-into-British works best for me - when I combine them it's Marshall stack tone I'm looking for.) If I were playing metal, I might configure things differently. But I'd probably still use two drives in this position.

    One nice thing about not running foundation pedals too hot is, it preserves clarity and character. They don't flub out from the chunk of my hot drive or tame down its sear. Pushing them with a TS, they behave like an amp pushed by a TS. Fuzz doesn't disappear into a mud pit. And when I do want extra distortion & sustain, that's what the transparent drive is there for.

    To me the crucial factor in choosing foundation pedals is good amplike interaction with the guitar's volume knob. I treat those exactly as if they were amps - cleans come from backing off the guitar, not turning off the foundation drives. The only time they're both off is for dead-clean dryness.

    [EDIT: I have to confess - thinking about it, both my boards now have a dual pedal in their transparent-drive spot. One uses a Box Of Awesome, which has Lovepedal's OD11 transparent drive plus a Kalamazoo drive - a bit Klonlike, though not actually a klone. The smaller board uses an AmpEleven, which has the same OD11 plus a Church Of Tone - single-knob boost that adds nice tubelike grit. So that's six drives already. The larger board also has an Elephant Man clean boost after the drives.]

    After all gain, there's an EP3 pedal (Chase Secret Pre on one, tiny Henretta Emerald Prince on the other) and then delay (Alexander Quadrant and Lovepedal Echophonic, respectively). The larger board also has a Neunaber Immerse reverb at the end and a FreQout feedback pedal near the beginning, after the tuner.


    Anyway, I've had good results layering drive pedals set for lower gain rather than using one-pedal-for-one-sound at high gain.

    Another thing - at stage volume you almost always sound better with a little less gain than you think you want. It's been my experience that a band mix usually benefits from the extra clarity too.

    Like many of my generation, my early amps didn't have a lot of gain on tap. Today there's unlimited gain available in so many flavors that I think many guitarists go overboard with it. IMO this applies to many seasoned pros nowadays, not just amateurs and home players.

    But that's just my opinion. As with anything tone-related, YMMV.
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    I have to admit, I dwell a pretty long time about how I would use a pedal before I get it. Any new pedal is a change to how I am working, and I have to decide if upsetting my workflow is worth it. I was never a 'collect them all and let's see what happens' guy.
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    Most important missing pedal is the one that finishes my pedalboard, so I'm happy with it and don't need to reorganize it again until something breaks.

    Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacew View Post
    Most important missing pedal is the one that finishes my pedalboard, so I'm happy with it and don't need to reorganize it again until something breaks.

    Any ideas?
    Do you have a wah and a trem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMD View Post
    Do you have a wah and a trem?
    Worm has both, but I never really use them except for fixed setting tone.
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