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    As many know, guitar speaker needs some breaking-in time to sound the best they could, but I was curious to find out what exactly changes as speaker "breaks in" So I compared speakers that I have played for last year and brand new speaker that been played just for couple minutes before recoding this video. I did my best to achieve exactly the same mic placement(dead center on cap, right in front of grill) but as you may know every single speaker sounds bit different from others, so on this video it's three old speakers and one new. I think that fresh speaker sounds more flubby, and somehow produces more unwanted frequencies and whereas "breaker-in" is more focussed and tighter with all frequencies that you want. But it's up to you to decide. Only thing to remember, that if you buy brand new cab or speaker, give it some good run at loud volumes before make your mind if you like cab or not


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    Very interesting. I was going to start a thread about this. I think the brand new speaker does sound flubby for some reason. I would be interested to know more about the science of it. Why speakers don't come perfect, what happens during the time they get broken in, and how long it takes. I have a recording of the brand new flubby speaker.

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    I think it's simply when you have an electrical-to-mechanical interface, (and vice-versa), you need to flex the mechanical part. It's kinda why they used to need to break-in your car engine. Not so much in the 21st century. Phono cartridges are the same way. Mechanical-to-electrical. They need time to come "alive."

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    I have found this to be true. My Marshall combo was very woofy in the low end when I got it. But after a few months that went away.


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    Default Re: Breaking-in guitar speaker, What difference does it makes?

    My G12H30's came flat and shrill, and loosened up in to brilliant speaker within 6 months. I don't think they we're flubby at all.
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    I thought the new one had a boxier sound, the others were smoother , but what do I know I have constant ringing in my right ear

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    My V30s started off bright and shrill . . . but after playing full volume for a few hundred hours, they started to sound darker and with less high end. Actually, everything sounds darker and with less high end now. TV, songs, conversations. Can still hear lots of high end though . . . it's always ringing. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarStv View Post
    My V30s started off bright and shrill . . . but after playing full volume for a few hundred hours, they started to sound darker and with less high end. Actually, everything sounds darker and with less high end now. TV, songs, conversations. Can still hear lots of high end though . . . it's always ringing. :P
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    WHAT???? SPEAK UP SONNY!
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    What, no ASL?

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    That could be why I like 70/80's.

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    I know when I put a set of DT-10's in my Vibro King they changed significantly within the first couple of months. The highs mellowed and they just sounded smoother and more balanced as they broke in. Now they're amazing!

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    You'd think there would be a market for already broken-in speakers.
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    ^ I just made a sale on ebay for my lightly used, less than a year old, nice and broken in speaker for $55 or so minus tax and fees then paid $59.95 to ship it. Woohoo!
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    My Vintage 30s are warmer and smoother sounding than my greenbacks. When I read about V30s being harsh and too bright, however, I remember they were indeed that way during the first year. Now mine are all at least 20 years old. That's evidence that break in combined with aging is a factor. I think people have an unrealistic expectation that a few weeks of normal playing of a new speaker will do the trick. It probably takes more than that. Also I wonder how many used cabs when sold have been barely used or used only a bedroom volumes.

    You'd think there would be a market for already broken-in speakers.
    Scumbacks come pre broke in, as do the Avatar Hellatone series. Scumback refers to their system as FBI for Full Break In. It is claimed that it is equivalent to 60+ hours at rock gig volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lake Placid Blues View Post
    My Vintage 30s are warmer and smoother sounding than my greenbacks. When I read about V30s being harsh and too bright, however, I remember they were indeed that way during the first year.
    There are like 4795749547594 different versions of V30's too. Some of them are smoother than others by design, regardless of break in time. Current Chinese ones are definitely brighter than old MIE ones or Mesa exclusives. Not to say they're worse, but they're definitely spikier, even once you break them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex_Rocker View Post
    There are like 4795749547594 different versions of V30's too. Some of them are smoother than others by design, regardless of break in time. Current Chinese ones are definitely brighter than old MIE ones or Mesa exclusives. Not to say they're worse, but they're definitely spikier, even once you break them in.
    Very true. Mine are the Mesa version and the Marshall version. The Mesa's are warmer and fatter than the Marshall version. But the Marshall version's brightness is not spikey. It's more chimey than spikey. It's a little more toward the G12H but without the grit.

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