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Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

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  • #31
    Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

    Yeah! Let me know how those Apollos work out.
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    • #32
      Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

      Originally posted by DavidRavenMoon View Post
      I put a blend control on one of my two humbucker guitars instead of a switch. It wasn’t as useful as on a bass. The blend options between the two pickups was meh, and I ended up putting the switch back in.
      That's interesting. I was thinking of trying this with one of my LP's. If I do, I'll report back.

      I did go ahead and order the EMG ABC from Sweetwater, but it's a special order item and takes time to get. I may go ahead and install the Apollo's just to get a baseline tone. Then I can tell better what the tonal impact of the ABC is.

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      • #33
        Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

        To the original question, I am gonna go with 'tradition' more than anything else. We guitarists and bassists love it, and anything different frightens and scares us.
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        • #34
          Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

          Originally posted by dg27 View Post
          My '76 Rick 4001S and '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special both had 3-ways. I replaced them with a blend in both cases.
          Update: I redid the '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special, replacing the blend with a DPDT tone/series-parallel switch.

          Not really a fan of blends, but I love S-P switching.
          '69 Fender Mustang bass
          '69 Gibson EB-1
          '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
          '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
          '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Dimarzio Model J for bridge [BEAD tuning]
          '99 Fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
          '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
          '14 Fretless Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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          • #35
            Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

            On my Toby, I find that it sounds best right in the middle. I'd probably eliminate the blend altogether if I hadn't ordered the ABC pot.

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            • #36
              Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

              best tone I ever had, was with a Strat, with the middle/bridge pickups wired in series...

              i kid you not :o
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              • #37
                Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                I've added a push-pull to do that mod before. It does make an interesting virtual bridge humbucker.

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                • #38
                  Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                  Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
                  Guitar is a rhythm and lead instrument. There's often call to quickly switch between very different sounds in a tune. Bass tends to be largely a rhythm instrument, and there isn't as much call for switching between particular sounds in a song.
                  I'm not going to call you an idiot. That would be wrong and disrespectful. I will say I believe you just made that up and have no basis for that other than your own opinion.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                    Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
                    Guitar is a rhythm and lead instrument. There's often call to quickly switch between very different sounds in a tune. Bass tends to be largely a rhythm instrument, and there isn't as much call for switching between particular sounds in a song.
                    The four basses I use most have s-p switching and I do indeed switch the setting during different parts of songs because the difference is dramatic.
                    '69 Fender Mustang bass
                    '69 Gibson EB-1
                    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
                    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
                    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Dimarzio Model J for bridge [BEAD tuning]
                    '99 Fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
                    '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
                    '14 Fretless Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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                    • #40
                      Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                      It's weird, I'm totally fine with active boost/cut 3-band on-board EQs and blend knobs on a bass, but try as I might, it just doesn't work on a guitar. I like my guitars simple and stripped down and my bass to have complexity to the wiring.
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                      • #41
                        Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                        Originally posted by dg27 View Post
                        The four basses I use most have s-p switching and I do indeed switch the setting during different parts of songs because the difference is dramatic.
                        I'd like to try this. Did you try this on a J or a P, or both?

                        Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
                        It's weird, I'm totally fine with active boost/cut 3-band on-board EQs and blend knobs on a bass, but try as I might, it just doesn't work on a guitar. I like my guitars simple and stripped down and my bass to have complexity to the wiring.
                        I'm kinda in this same boat. Even though I try some oddball wiring, I generally go back to "normal." The one exception is that I love the V3rd, (virtual middle humbucker), sound.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                          Originally posted by ArtieToo View Post
                          I'd like to try this. Did you try this on a J or a P, or both?
                          The four that are wired that way are these:

                          '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Dimarzio Model J for bridge [BEAD tuning]
                          '99 Fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
                          '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
                          '14 Fretless Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

                          The s-p wiring makes a HUGE difference with the Warmoth and greatly increases the range.
                          '69 Fender Mustang bass
                          '69 Gibson EB-1
                          '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
                          '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
                          '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Dimarzio Model J for bridge [BEAD tuning]
                          '99 Fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
                          '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
                          '14 Fretless Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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                          • #43
                            Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                            I'll definitely give it a try. My EMG ABC control is supposed to arrive today.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                              I learned about the mod from Tony Dudzik (Pickguardian), who has made several pickguards for me. I had it done on my '87 MIJ Squier Jazz and was completely sold. It's now my default to have that done whenever I do a pickup swap.
                              '69 Fender Mustang bass
                              '69 Gibson EB-1
                              '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
                              '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
                              '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Dimarzio Model J for bridge [BEAD tuning]
                              '99 Fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
                              '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
                              '14 Fretless Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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                              • #45
                                Re: Why do you suppose bass's use "blends", while guitars use switches?

                                Regarding OP question, I don't see myself using a blend on a guitar, not because of tradition but for convenience. Some songs I switch neck/bridge pickups often, a blend would not work.
                                On a passive bass I prefer VV, a blend is not doing it for me. On an active bass I'm ok with a blend if the blend is an active circuit and not just a blend pot.

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