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  • #31
    Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

    Wow...that's too bad man. I do love the tones I get from mine (a lot more than anything I got from an Axe FX II I spent a day messing around with last year..thought that lacked weight and presence ). Did you try messing with the Global EQ? I've set mine up with the option to switch it on and off with any of my patches & it definitely has a big effect on presence/weight etc although I use it to taste ..most patches (and all my tone cap's) are fine without it ..especially in a mix...but the difference is there if I want it..



    It's a common complaint with GE300 which they will probably address in the next firmware update, but personally the pitch shifter works fine for me ..at least for my purposes (not using it for bass guitar simulation..so I can't comment on that)...but I've used it to turn my guitar down a few steps for a project I'm working on & I think it works perfectly for that... a hell of a lot better than my old Boss GT6's or Whammy II...tracks great/no glitches/wavering etc..

    But yeah, unfortunate...hope you find something else that works' for you
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    • #32
      Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

      Originally posted by Phantasmagoria View Post
      Wow...that's too bad man. I do love the tones I get from mine (a lot more than anything I got from an Axe FX II I spent a day messing around with last year..thought that lacked weight and presence ). Did you try messing with the Global EQ? I've set mine up with the option to switch it on and off with any of my patches & it definitely has a big effect on presence/weight etc although I use it to taste ..most patches (and all my tone cap's) are fine without it ..especially in a mix...but the difference is there if I want it..



      It's a common complaint with GE300 which they will probably address in the next firmware update, but personally the pitch shifter works fine for me ..at least for my purposes (not using it for bass guitar simulation..so I can't comment on that)...but I've used it to turn my guitar down a few steps for a project I'm working on & I think it works perfectly for that... a hell of a lot better than my old Boss GT6's or Whammy II...tracks great/no glitches/wavering etc..

      But yeah, unfortunate...hope you find something else that works' for you
      Yes, I had found and tried out the Global EQ.

      It's not a problem that the GE300 didn't work out for me. I just return to my BOSS MS3 + individual pedals setup which I was already happy with tone wise. The appeal of the GE300 for me was the potential benefit of an all-in-one solution, so less cable connections and smaller footprint.

      My BOSS MS-3 setup will actually still use some Mooer modelers (i.e. the Radar pedal for cab/mic/power amp sims and the 006 US Classic Deluxe Preamp pedal for clean amp tones) but no modeling for the distortion tones - those will remain solid-state/analog type stompboxes.
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      • #33
        Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

        Originally posted by Phantasmagoria View Post
        Wow...that's too bad man. I do love the tones I get from mine (a lot more than anything I got from an Axe FX II I spent a day messing around with last year..thought that lacked weight and presence ). Did you try messing with the Global EQ? I've set mine up with the option to switch it on and off with any of my patches & it definitely has a big effect on presence/weight etc although I use it to taste ..most patches (and all my tone cap's) are fine without it ..especially in a mix...but the difference is there if I want it..



        It's a common complaint with GE300 which they will probably address in the next firmware update, but personally the pitch shifter works fine for me ..at least for my purposes (not using it for bass guitar simulation..so I can't comment on that)...but I've used it to turn my guitar down a few steps for a project I'm working on & I think it works perfectly for that... a hell of a lot better than my old Boss GT6's or Whammy II...tracks great/no glitches/wavering etc..

        But yeah, unfortunate...hope you find something else that works' for you
        That Global EQ video has a funny little mistake. I am sure its due to the frequency values chosen not being real-world values but just random values for the purpose of the viewer seeing that the user can set those values. Cuz the frequency value of 5000 kHz chosen for Hi Gain is in conflict with the Hi Pass Filter frequency being set to only 4000 kHz. Lol.
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        • #34
          Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

          I'm no studio whizz & as a rule I pay ZERO attention to numbers (don't get them anyway ) ..always set things up with my ears..mess with stuff till I think it sounds right. That approach worked with the GE300 just as well as with anything else out there
          "Less is less, more is more...how can less be more?" ~Yngwie J Malmsteen

          I did it my way ~ Frank Sinatra

          Originally posted by Rodney Gene
          If you let your tone speak for itself you'll find alot less people join the conversation.


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          • #35
            Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

            You can have EQs and filters cross over each other like that. The sound comes through. It just results in an odd peak or Q factor.

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            • #36
              Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

              Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
              You can have EQs and filters cross over each other like that. The sound comes through. It just results in an odd peak or Q factor.
              True, but given the context of the type of video it was featured in, I am pretty sure it was a mistake vs intentional.
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              • #37
                Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                Not an actual synth pedal, but the other day i managed to make my guitar sound like an analogue sequencer the other day. Ran a fuzz pedal to simulate a square wave, into a wah for a filter, then into a POG, and finally used different kinds of modulation at the end. Palm muting different melodic lines reminded me a lot of On the Run by Pink Floyd
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                • #38
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                  EHX POG2 do really good job I think and very versatile being excellent tracking polyphonic octaver as well. 8 Presets to easy switch, and envelope control as well.

                  Not all bad simulating a 12-string like on Tambourin Man style of picking notes.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                    I'd love a pedal that could simulate a bass really well. I use octavers, and guitar synth, but the synth is pretty clunky to gig with (though it works the best). I haven't tried a POG or any of the EH pedals for this.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                      Originally posted by Mincer View Post
                      I'd love a pedal that could simulate a bass really well. I use octavers, and guitar synth, but the synth is pretty clunky to gig with (though it works the best). I haven't tried a POG or any of the EH pedals for this.
                      There are bass sounds in the Boss SY-1. Only had a cursory glance at them though.


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                      • #41
                        Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                        Originally posted by stevie_bees View Post
                        There are bass sounds in the Boss SY-1. Only had a cursory glance at them though.
                        Hmm, I will have to investigate that.
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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by stevie_bees View Post
                          There are bass sounds in the Boss SY-1. Only had a cursory glance at them though.

                          Aren't they Bass synth sounds?
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                          • #43
                            Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                            Originally posted by Mincer View Post
                            I'd love a pedal that could simulate a bass really well. I use octavers, and guitar synth, but the synth is pretty clunky to gig with (though it works the best). I haven't tried a POG or any of the EH pedals for this.
                            As a stand-alone stompbox, the Digitech Harmony Man with Pitch Shift set to -12 is a very good bass tone. Not glitchy or warbly. I am getting ready to put my Harmony Man up for sale because I just transitioned over to the multi-effects in the BOSS MS-3 and that does as good a job - but the footprint of the MS-3 is much bigger since its an effects loop switcher plus multi-effects unit.

                            [Edit:in the MS-3, the Octaver effect set to -12 steps does not track well, but luckily the Pitch Shufter set to -12 steps does. In the MS-3 the fidelity is boosted by also turning on the Limiter effect and using the EQ settings to cut bass, a little mids and boost the Highs.]
                            Last edited by Jack_TriPpEr; 04-14-2020, 02:09 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                              Originally posted by Mincer View Post
                              I'd love a pedal that could simulate a bass really well. I use octavers, and guitar synth, but the synth is pretty clunky to gig with (though it works the best). I haven't tried a POG or any of the EH pedals for this.
                              I've always wondered if a 7 string guitar with a really thick 7th string tuned down to low E or B would work better for this.
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                              • #45
                                Re: Guitar synth / organ pedals

                                Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                                Aren't they Bass synth sounds?
                                I'm pretty sure there are a couple of dark bass settings that are more akin to bass guitar sounds rather than synth, although it's not an area I've really explored.


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