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Thread: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

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    Default How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    I was watching some more pedal videos last night and saw the strangest thing.... A guy had his noise gate 1st in his signal chain on his pedal board....

    Got me all sorts of sideways thinking about it.

    So I watched a couple more videos on the matter.... People use their gates in different places to choke different things.

    Choke the pickups...choke the dirt box...choke the entire signal....

    That got me curious... Where do you put yours in your chain?
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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    I don't see much point in it being the first thing in the chain, unless you have noisey pickups that are giving like micro noises or something similar.

    I would put it after all the gain stages and funky pedals like octave, pitch shift that are famous for noise etc and before anything with a complicated decay -like reverb or long delay

    Also, I would put it after ANY digital EHX pedal -because they are SO DAMN NOISY.
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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeEase View Post
    I don't see much point in it being the first thing in the chain, unless you have noisey pickups that are giving like micro noises or something similar.

    I would put it after all the gain stages and funky pedals like octave, pitch shift that are famous for noise etc and before anything with a complicated decay -like reverb or long delay

    Also, I would put it after ANY digital EHX pedal -because they are SO DAMN NOISY.
    I like mine in the fx loop

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    I had my ISP Decimator II G-String in the FX loop of my JVM410. The gain stages on that sucker are loud as heck. Didn't help that I'm running P90s. This worked very well, except the guitar needs to go in directly to a g-string, maybe after a tuner but not much else. This is only to detect if there is any signal coming. A separate loop is for pedals, fx loop, or whatever you put in it. you can put reverb/delay/chorus after this loop to avoid choke off. Problem is you'd have to run cables back to the front if you have a board or stomp boxes.
    So now I've got it on the board. It's guitar > tuner > ISP, but the actual noise gate is board > ISP > delay > amp
    works just as well and the JVM seems to sound better without running the FX loop.
    Highly recommend the G-String. Detect signal straight from guitar, but gate can then be positioned anywhere.

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    messed up my vote. didnt see the "last thing before delay" before I clicked.

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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    At the end of the chain, unless the amp has an effects loop, in which case, I put it there.

    FWIW, my noise gate is a Decimator G String. You can run this pedal many different ways, since it has its own loop. If you don't want to use its internal loop, then you just patch the loop's jacks together with a short cable.

    And I don't leave it on either. I turn it on in between songs or during long rests, and I only bother in particularly noisy venues.
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    Demos of the ones that include a loop are really cool. You trigger off the input but clamp after gain stages and before delay.
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    I've never even tried it in my loop.
    Hmmmmm.

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    I don't use a gate at all, but I don't use the amount of distortion that might need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80's_Metal View Post
    I've never even tried it in my loop.
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    I only use it first in the chain to avoid buzz/hum from venue issues and/or when using single coils. The rest of my chain is clean. Distortion I use doesn’t hiss or put out noise when not playing, so no need for any gate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaubrummels View Post
    I only use it first in the chain to avoid buzz/hum from venue issues and/or when using single coils. The rest of my chain is clean. Distortion I use doesn’t hiss or put out noise when not playing, so no need for any gate.
    I don’t use a gate at all, but a heavy gate after thick distortion is a cool sound, kind of like the industrial guitar sound. My amp has one, it’s fun for that heavy riffing tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PFDarkside View Post
    Demos of the ones that include a loop are really cool. You trigger off the input but clamp after gain stages and before delay.
    The Decimator G String is indeed a relatively transparent noise gate. But it can still be heard if you aren't subtle in its application. I go for a major noise reduction, as opposed complete noise elimination. I can leave it on, but noise really isn't apparent while playing, so I save batteries and only use it as I mentioned above (between songs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaBass View Post
    The Decimator G String is indeed a relatively transparent noise gate. But it can still be heard if you aren't subtle in its application. I go for a major noise reduction, as opposed complete noise elimination. I can leave it on, but noise really isn't apparent while playing, so I save batteries and only use it as I mentioned above (between songs).
    Very true. The G String certainly can be heard if set that way.
    I use mine as an always on pedal (except on the clean channel) but I set it so that I get “enough” reduction to squash some of the noise but not so much that it cuts my sound out when I roll off the volume.
    At a gig, I turn the reduction down even more because the noise floor is masked by the ambient sounds in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeEase View Post
    I don't see much point in it being the first thing in the chain, unless you have noisey pickups that are giving like micro noises or something similar.

    I would put it after all the gain stages and funky pedals like octave, pitch shift that are famous for noise etc and before anything with a complicated decay -like reverb or long delay

    Also, I would put it after ANY digital EHX pedal -because they are SO DAMN NOISY.
    Heh. I have my Hush in loop right before the power amp, because last pedal in chain is Holy Grail. There's still some hissing, but not too bad.

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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    Usually a gate goes first in the loop.
    That’s how I do it anyway. Works great for me there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    Usually a gate goes first in the loop.
    That’s how I do it anyway. Works great for me there.
    ^ Unless the noisy pedal.is at the end of it...
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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacew View Post
    ^ Unless the noisy pedal.is at the end of it...
    What noisy pedal do you have at the end?

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    Default Re: How and Where do you use your noise gate/suppression/hush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    What noisy pedal do you have at the end?
    Holy Grail. Had the the circumflex there to point at my previous post...
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