I was wondering what the general idea was to get a good garage punk rock tone, akin to Alternative Ulster. I'm assuming the majority of the tone is just about any guitar into a DS-1. What are the other requirements in terms of amp, setting, and other pedals?
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Someone should check and see what Johnny Ramone used in his signal chain. His guitar was usually a Mosrite with a Gibson mini-humbucker in the bridge, sometimes a Tele. Pretty sure he used Marshall stuff - but I don't know specifics.
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Minimal setup, played loud is how you get punk rock tones. To me, I want a tone that's ragged rather than smooth for punk rock tones. Generally low to mid output pickups into a DS1, Rat, Muff, etc... or cranked amp that's on the verge of blowing up is how I would get it.
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I played in my share of punk bands and watched a LOT of them live in the late 1980s-eraly 1990s. Most of the time it's guitar (almost always humbucker) straight into amp. SG into a Marshall half stack is the classic, but I have seen a wide variety of amps & guitars. My last hardcore band, I played an ES-335 into a Randall RG if it was a real club with a raised stage, and a '60s Tiesco teardrop hollowbody with a JB if it was floor-level.
Anybody running a distortion pedal was usually a beginner.
Johnny Ramone was straight into Marshall, ranging from a half stack to 2 full stacks depending on the size of the venue, at least the dozen or so times I saw them live.
So: humbucker, decent amp, strong right hand.
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Originally posted by '59 View PostI was wondering what the general idea was to get a good garage punk rock tone, akin to Alternative Ulster. I'm assuming the majority of the tone is just about any guitar into a DS-1. What are the other requirements in terms of amp, setting, and other pedals?
If you want the STF tone it's all about running the fretboard with the open D string ringing out with the melodic note runs on the G and B string. and then interspersed with tightened Barre chords in the verse section and loose cowboy/open chords ringing out during the chorus.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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The best punk tones I've ever gotten came from a DS-1 into the effects return of my JCM800 into a half stack Orange cab. The DS-1 was set with very minimal gain (veer towards too little as opposed to too much), maximum volume, and the tone set just further than you'd think it would be.
Most of the punk tone, IMO, comes from a bright mid-heavy guitar cooking power amp tubes. It's also really important to remember that hitting the strings too hard and not always muting the strings that you aren't strumming. The key to the garage punk sound is creating the illusion that you're just barely skilled enough to play what you are playing. It adds "life" and grit.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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The punk attitude ("I am gonna say something and you are gonna listen") is really the place to start. Then look for any gear you have access to- lack of the 'right' gear won't stop you. I'd say start with vintage-output pickups, since that is all that was available at the time.Administrator of the SDUGF
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I think if the punk tones you're getting sound good you're kinda not doing it right. :PJoin me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
Originally posted by Douglas AdamsThis planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
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Some use nice gear, some use garage gear, some use a mix. Do whatever you want depending on what sound you want to achieve. I have a thing for garage gear, but it doesn't necessarily have to be all jacked up and play horrible. Here's one of Johnny Ramone's guitars. Mosrite with a strat in the bridge. Also lol at people saying you better have a hardcore approach to your attitude, playing, and gear otherwise it's wrong. What are we, in high school?
I just finished this. Sounds way garage rock.
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Alternative Ulster was a very good tune !
For me the sound of SLF first albums are guitar into amp without any distortion pedal.
You need a fair amout of gain from the amp and play real full 6 strings barred chords.
Punk sound was not so much a matter of gear but energy.
Then we were not obsessed by gear. It was the DIY thing.Last edited by Francois; 03-30-2020, 06:58 AM.Smartphone Zombies won't shred
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Exactly, the energy has to be there...it is more important than the gear.Administrator of the SDUGF
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