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    Can you compare the sound of the clean channels on both?
    Ascension's description was on the money. The clean channels sounded very similar, and the HRD's distortion channel had more gain.

    I will say that the Eminence speaker in my Blues Deluxe was very shrill. I tried a few different WGS speakers (Reaper HP. ET 65, Retro 30) and an Eminence Swamp Thang. I ended up settling on a Celestion G12T-75. Unusual choice I know but the massive low end of that speaker helped in that open back cab. I also play metal quite a bit so that speaker fit from that perspective, too. I actually arrived at that speaker choice based on a suggestion from someone to a thread i started in this forum.
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    Good diagram Shadowfire90, but it isn't what the OP wants.

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    It sounds a little thin.
    Eminence C. Rex would fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarStv View Post
    Eminence C. Rex would fix that.
    Does it also sound sweet and detailed? I’d like to be able to hear the winds on the strings, the hollow body of my jazz guitar.

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    my buddy put a CRex in his Bandit when the Scorpion failed
    it made the Bandit a British tone monster
    then when he got the Classic 30
    the swapped the Blue Marvel out of the C30 into the Bandit
    and the Crex into the C30

    it didnt sound right

    the Blue Marvel was 16 ohms and the CRex is 8 ohms
    he had to put a jumper in the EXT speaker to jack to trick the amp into using the low resistance speaker

    it worked
    it doesn't blat out , or overheat and shut off any more
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    The amp is factory-equipped with a Celestion G12P-80. No impedance marking clutters up the label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMD View Post
    Does it also sound sweet and detailed? I’d like to be able to hear the winds on the strings, the hollow body of my jazz guitar.
    The C. Rex is a great speaker for playing clean jazz. It's very clear sounding with some authoritative but not overbearing lows and low-mids. The more piercing highs are rolled off, which gives it a bit of a laid back feel . . . but it's not muffled at all. I'd describe it as sweet sounding.

    If your guitar is very bass heavy, or your amp sounds too tubby it would be a bad fit. It's perfect for fattening up a thin sound though.
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    Today I took the back panel off my HRD so I could reglue the little Tolex fingers that had lifted up around the curves. I saw what would be involved in swapping out a speaker, and I’m a little squeamish about taking the side bolts out and getting them back in.

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    Does it also sound sweet and detailed? I’d like to be able to hear the winds on the strings, the hollow body of my jazz guitar.
    The C Rex to me is a little dark and dull sounding to me clean. The C12T WGS will be a much more defined and sweet speaker. It flat blew me away when I got it with how well it handled the articulate cleans of the Zinky and still had a lot of punch on the crunch side.
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    Today I took the back panel off my HRD so I could reglue the little Tolex fingers that had lifted up around the curves. I saw what would be involved in swapping out a speaker, and I’m a little squeamish about taking the side bolts out and getting them back in.
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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    Looks like the trickiest part is dealing with the capacitors.

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    umm... what? swapping a speaker should have nothing to do with any caps.

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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    In the HRD
    apparantly you have to remove the pan

    with capacitors on it
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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    the hrd doesnt have a pan like bf fenders, ive swapped a speaker on a hrd. disconnect the wires, pull the chassis, swap the speaker, put the chassis back in, reconnect the wires. its pretty simple for even a novice

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    the guy in the video isnt working on a HRD? it says he is
    looks like one to me
    but I aint got one

    so if you say the video is in error
    I'll have to take your word

    is that what you mean?
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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    i just watched the video, are you talking about draining the caps? if so, its very simple, but i never bothered, just dont touch the guts of the chassis. if someone isnt used to working on amps, it probably a good idea to drain the caps. there is no pan though... not sure what you mean by that

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    the folded metal part the knobs and tubes are mounted on is called the pan
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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    I might be able to do this. My Reverend speaker is 50 watts, and I baby the volume control in my small apartment. Sound like a good fit?

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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    ive never heard the chassis referred to as a pan, learn something new everyday i guess.

    you wont need to baby the volume, just dont run it cranked up. it would be fine on 5 for example which is pretty dang loud on those things

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    I’m sure I’ll never see 5 on its master volume.

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    Default Re: Replacement speaker for HRD III

    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    ive never heard the chassis referred to as a pan, learn something new everyday i guess.

    you wont need to baby the volume, just dont run it cranked up. it would be fine on 5 for example which is pretty dang loud on those things
    I think I may have picked that up here

    https://www.mojotone.com/ChassisCapPans_1#/

    it may be the wrong terminology
    but the folded steel resembling a pan just seemed right to me
    I considered the the chassis as all the assembled parts

    you're probably right,
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