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    Default Re: NBGD - Surprise and Dismay

    The EndurNeck, a flat spot that moves across the back. If you play with any technique but thumb in the back, it doesn't feel that great.
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    oh no
    that's like a poorly done Ibanez flat back

    oh no, no

    It took me forever to get used to the Wizard II flat back neck
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    It's kind of a weird profile - asymetric in nature. As I understand the flat center section is about 1" thick from end to end.

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    I find it intriguing, and want to try it out.

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    I think it is worth trying, and actually might be great if you have a classical left hand position. My left hand varies a lot, so I found it kinda uncomfortable. I do like most of the Strandberg designs, though. I would like it better if he had a 22 fret model.
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    I play a lot of different instruments and neck sizes/shapes and can handle about anything except something really narrow like a mandolin neck. I like trying new stuff, and I can always sell it if I don't. Figured this would be worth a try for the money. Of course - it remains to be seen whether it was worth it.

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    Here's a Chinese copy with that funky neck

    #Aliexpress US $320.00 | Mountain headless guitar fanned fret alder body quilted maple top 9 pieces roasted maple neck fret free shipping
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    Appears to be much higher quality. I doubt those are real Wilkinson humbuckers, though.

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    well that is if you get whats in the picture
    sometimes that is a crap shoot as well
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    Speaking of crapshoots.... the seller just informed me that "US Customs isn't accepting any new goods from China"..... so how about a refund instead? The Chinese can't stop lying, why in the world does anyone do business with them?

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    hmmm

    I just ordered some stuff from china

    sounds like the price went up
    as I noticed
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    It has turned into a comedy show now.... The seller has been trying to refund to my Paypal account, and told me it wouldn't accept - so please wait while he restarted his computer. Then he made a partial refund (forgot about the fees), and he's trying again. If he wasn't such an incompetent liar, I'd feel sorry for him. Guess I'll have to attempt certain repairs to this wretched thing... I'll just add it to the stack of work in the spare bedroom.

    P.S. After 3 attempts, he finally got the correct amount on my refund. So then I messed with him and said we should talk about feedback now.... No response yet.
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    Well you've been made whole again
    Its looking better now

    You have a link for a new bridge
    And you have the skills to put the woods back together

    Worst case

    Send us pictures of the fire
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    Send us pictures of the fire
    You so funny. Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICTGoober View Post
    You so funny. Not.
    You so chill. Not.

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    You so chill. Not.
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    Okay - I had some space yesterday between doing refrets and touch-ups and grabbed that crazy thing to see what it really needed. I popped the neck, and headed to the drill press. Cut some maple plugs with a 5/8" plug cutter (8 screw holes in the neck, remember?). Glued them in. Was going to pull the weird locking nut, and found out it was epoxied to the end of the neck. Grabbed my little travel iron, and heated it up until the epoxy softened. Cleaned that off the neck and the locknut, then test fitted it.... The shelf was too long, so I filed about a 16th off, keeping it square. Fit much better after screwing it back down. Drilled the new neck screw holes, and remounted the neck solidly on the body.

    Strung it up with 10's instead of those 8's that were on it (spare set of strings in the plastic bag of wrenches, etc.). The locking nut has individual set screws for clamping, and then 3 Floyd style screws with clamps to keep the strings in the slots. Remember - it has a zero fret! Had a high fret around the 10th, and a low one around the 17th. Did a quickie spot level and polished out all the frets. They look and feel like Dunlop 6100 ultra high jumbos. These are tall.... Got it tuned up to pitch - remind me to make a tool to tune it with. Those knobs are too close together, but an allen wrench turns them easily.

    Plugged it into the TU-3 to check the intonation..... Moved all the saddles back, and they are still sharp except for the treble E. Several ways to rectify that problem, will think on it. Okay - strap it on and plug into the Marshall. Clean channel - YE GODS, this thing is trebly. The humbuckers are on the spicy side and sound like hot single coils. Not much bottom end at all. In the middle position it's out of phase - great for chicken pickin or funk. OK, add some dirt.... Very crunchy tone, but still way trebly - just icepick sharp. Rolling off the tone just muddies it up, not cool. The sound is pleasing with distortion, but it's not fat at all - djent is out of the question.

    Well, it's almost time for lunch, and I'll come back to this subject at a later time. Conclusion: Not bad for a free guitar, but I don't know if I'll keep it. That zero fret really throws me off when I slide down to first position chords.... Had no trouble at all with the fanned frets, barely even noticed.

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    Fanned frets are pretty easy to get used to, but I don't know if I hear the benefit on a regular 6 string, or even 7 string. I do hear and feel a difference on a 5 string bass. But I think it is one of those 'trickle down' upgrades we see coming from expensive extended range instruments.
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