Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance added?

[PFDarkside]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

Like I said, each player’s preference is going to be different. For me, I like consistency. It was actually switching my delay to buffered bypass that did the most for me. Previously turning delay on/off (even with other pedals engaged before) would cause volume jumps/drops depending on the other pedals engaged.

My Blackstar HT-20mkII sounds different- with a Joyo analog delay in between amp and guitar- or going straight cable,
I've guessed this to be an "impedance" issue.

Is the Joyo true bypass? If so, you are also adding all the capacitance of the pedal->amp as well when bypassed.

[Mincer]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

Well, loop bypass pedals are expensive because all of the relays. There are a few kits out there to build them, and if this sort of thing is something that bothers you, than they are the solution.

[Larioso]

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I want to give cred to Pedal Board committee giving me idea to buffer early - so right now very happy.
Curiosity drives to understand more though, always....are there any bad seeds in my pedal collection.....

[PFDarkside]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

I want to give cred to Pedal Board committee giving me idea to buffer early - so right now very happy.
Curiosity drives to understand more though, always....are there any bad seeds in my pedal collection.....

Any vintage MXR or Electro Harmonix pedals? They had the horrible “half” bypass that left the circuit still attached on one end. Some wahs are bad too. If they are all new “true bypass” pedals then I’m sure they are ok.

[DavidRavenMoon]

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True bypass is a fad. Once it was an improvement compared to cheap pedals with SPDT foot switches that left the input connected.

The loss of highs is why Boss started doing the buffered FET switching, as well as no switch pops.


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[Larioso]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

If Boss gave you the choice would be nice.
I have other pedals that do - you have true bypass or allow tailes to ring out when disengaged, so buffered. Internal switch.
Then you could have buffered where you wanted.
It does not fix switch pops of course, but at least a choice.

Some of these bypass loopers are arranged that way - and choice is yours.

I have 2 dual pedal bypass switchers(none, either or both), but use only one currently for two pedals that don't have true bypass.
And nothing stops you from having a couple of pedals in each loop either. Those rarely used could have it's own loop, so out of circuit most of the time.

Many ways to go about it, I guess.

[GuitarStv]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

If Boss gave you the choice would be nice.
I have other pedals that do - you have true bypass or allow tailes to ring out when disengaged, so buffered. Internal switch.
Then you could have buffered where you wanted.
It does not fix switch pops of course, but at least a choice.

It's not really possible. Because of the way the regular boss pedal housing is constructed the standard 3pdt switch just won't physically fit.

[PFDarkside]

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It's not really possible. Because of the way the regular boss pedal housing is constructed the standard 3pdt switch just won't physically fit.

I present... the TU-3W:

Selectable buffered bypass or true bypass.

I really like the soft touch style bypass switches, they can either switch a relay or a JFET and can have a buffer or not.

[GuitarStv]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

I present... the TU-3W:

Selectable buffered bypass or true bypass.

I really like the soft touch style bypass switches, they can either switch a relay or a JFET and can have a buffer or not.

Huh, I'd like to take one apart and see how they did that.

[NegativeEase]

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Huh, I'd like to take one apart and see how they did that.

It's Boss man, of course it's done with unicorns and fairy dust in their magic factory in Shizuoka Prefecture

[Larioso]

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With relays you don't have the problem with dimensions as a mechanical switch, you can spread them on a circuit board.

A push button style closing switch with a one-shot circuit(just a resistor+cap to debounce mechanical contacts, so one press does not become many) and a flip/flop circuit to engage or release a relay.

I have a couple pedals that has that feel to it - not so hard to press and relay driven probably.

Good thinking there on Boss Tuner it seems.
Pity it didn't spread all over to full line of pedals.

Really nice feel to engage/release the Boss pedals, not just a small push switch.
I still have a Boss Bass Synth I think, to fiddle with bass sounds.
Had a DD3 in the 70's but got rid of it.

[Jacew]

Re: Each pedal on pedalboard - connector in/out+true bypass - how much capacitance ad

True bypass is a fad. Once it was an improvement compared to cheap pedals with SPDT foot switches that left the input connected.

The loss of highs is why Boss started doing the buffered FET switching, as well as no switch pops.


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It's really not, having more than 1-2 buffered pedals / chain is just a pointless source of problems.

[NegativeEase]

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It's really not, having more than 1-2 buffered pedals / chain is just a pointless source of problems.

And yet, Jimi Hendrix bravely climbed the stairs and took the stage knowing he had 3 buffers in a row

[Larioso]

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And yet, Jimi Hendrix bravely climbed the stairs and took the stage knowing he had 3 buffers in a row

...and problems he could have avoided.

[Gtrjunior]

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Imagine how much better Jimi would have been if only he had true bypass pedals...
The world will never know.
Lol