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    I've got a Evh 6L6 head as well as other amps. People are bragging up their 100 watt heads as having a bigger low end thump. I love my 2x12 Celestion anniversary 30s. I was thinking of adding a Celestion "15" fullback to give my tone some pronounced low end thump of it's own. I was thinking running the celestion "15" in it's own cab the same size as my 2x12 cab and stacking the cabs on top of each other.
    What would you guys recommend.....
    Running both cabs separated into left and right outputs of the amp?
    Ot running them together out one of the channels?

    I know... .weird question. I dont want the 100 watt head.

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    You know my plan for later this month is to get a 15 inch cab fo my G5

    Just because I can
    I plan to get an adapter ring just in case I dont like the 15

    But ya know

    I was looking at 16 ohm speakers
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    Jensen makes a MOD 15
    I found several in the 16 ohm range

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    Just some color for you to consider.

    You can get more low end from 4x10s than 1x15 -you just have to select the right speakers.

    Greater speaker size doesn't necessarily equal directly to more low end but the total of your speaker count's surface area does -and 4 x10 has more surface area to produce low end than a 15" if it's set up for low end. Even a 2x12 speaker cab has more surface area -but the difference is most speaker manufacturers do not load 12' with a driver/magnet size for low end like they do for 10"s and 15"s

    The real advantage of a 15" speaker is the slower movement and slower response of the suspension gives a smoother transition between note movements on a fretboard -which is why they are excellent for bass -as 10"s are punchy and fast moving have a slightly musical gap between the notes that is very noticeable in many playing styles.

    So -if you are playing fast notey music, my guess is you will hate a 15" for guitar, but damn slowed down a bit -a 15 can really bring the smooth

    -and if you are just looking for a lot of low end -and want to play fast or punchy -avoid the 15" -and go with a 4x10'.
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    Also, if you want massive low end -like a freight train, you could use 5" speakers.

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    ^^ That's a fun cab! :o

    Who makes them? What is it called?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erlend_G View Post
    ^^ That's a fun cab! :o

    Who makes them? What is it called?!!
    Phil Jones -if you ever get to try one -it's an experience -so much massive low end but also because of the accuracy of a 5" driver, it's punchy and responsive.

    However, it's style dependent -because these kind of cabs tracks so accurately that the time between moving between frets and the fret buzzing etc can be pronounced and really reveal the worst parts of your playing -although it could also make you a better I guess.
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    had a Fender Pro Jr. with a 10"... sounded differnet, not bad...

    Never tried a 15" for gutiar.

    For bass, a 18" is my favourite... I like a deep, dub bass sound.

    And I've also designed, but not yet produced- my own signature speaker cabinets A 4x8" "jazz" cab, made for maximal acoustic sound from the cabinet itself...

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    If I remember correctly, Dimebag mixed up 12 inch speakers with 15 inch speakers, so it's certainly doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philthis View Post
    I've got a Evh 6L6 head as well as other amps. People are bragging up their 100 watt heads as having a bigger low end thump. I love my 2x12 Celestion anniversary 30s. I was thinking of adding a Celestion "15" fullback to give my tone some pronounced low end thump of it's own. I was thinking running the celestion "15" in it's own cab the same size as my 2x12 cab and stacking the cabs on top of each other.
    What would you guys recommend.....
    Running both cabs separated into left and right outputs of the amp?
    Ot running them together out one of the channels?

    I know... .weird question. I dont want the 100 watt head.
    I would run each speaker cab in it's own output.

    That said, adding a 15" cab is probably just going to add mud that has to be eq'd out by a sound man or recording engineer. Unless you're going for big cleans or SRV type tones, If it's just for fun playing by yourself, have at it.

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    100 watt heads have a tighter low end because of increased headroom. If you push your power amp into distortion you get a looser low end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRavenMoon View Post
    100 watt heads have a tighter low end because of increased headroom. If you push your power amp into distortion you get a looser low end.


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    Yeah, to that point -If I needed big big modern low end from a guitar encroaching on bass territory (like modern metal etc), I would probably prefer a solid state amp to push the low end and use a tube for the mids.
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    You could always find a bass player. Too much low end in the guitars in a band situation usually just turns into mush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philthis View Post
    I've got a Evh 6L6 head as well as other amps. People are bragging up their 100 watt heads as having a bigger low end thump. I love my 2x12 Celestion anniversary 30s. I was thinking of adding a Celestion "15" fullback to give my tone some pronounced low end thump of it's own. I was thinking running the celestion "15" in it's own cab the same size as my 2x12 cab and stacking the cabs on top of each other.
    What would you guys recommend.....
    Running both cabs separated into left and right outputs of the amp?
    Ot running them together out one of the channels?

    I know... .weird question. I dont want the 100 watt head.
    I play mine by itself and used it side by side with my 4x12 when I played in a post-hardcore band. Lots of thump. Here is a review I wrote up on the Celestion "15" fullback.

    http://tmrzoo.com/2016/69493/gear-re...guitar-speaker
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    Years ago, when I first got a 7 string, I was playing it through a Carvin XV212 with a 15" Gause Cetec in a ported cab plugged into the second speaker out.

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