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  • #16
    Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

    Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
    There's nothing a high gain amp can do that a clean amp with a few pedals can't do better.
    Except metal. Metal sounds mediocre at best using even the best pedals into a clean amp. That's my hot take.

    Oh! And also: Any incarnation of the 5150 sounds horrible with the mids set above 4.
    Last edited by Rex_Rocker; 06-13-2020, 05:47 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

      Great tone is worthless without good guitar parts and a song to be part of.
      The opinions expressed above do not necessarily represent those of the poster and are to be considered suspect at best.

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      • #18
        Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

        Originally posted by Beer$ View Post
        Great tone is worthless without good guitar parts and a song to be part of.
        Wait, that’s controversial?
        Oh no.....


        Oh Yeah!

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        • #19
          Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

          Originally posted by bigcupholder View Post
          Running distortion pedals into a clean amp is the worst way to get high gain tone.

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          Any high gain amp that's 100 watts is already doing this when you think about it. It's just using preamp tube distortion, virtually no power tube contribution. You can connect a tube pedal in the loop to effectively replace the preamp of a high wattage clean amp to get similar high gain tones.
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          • #20
            Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

            Everyone hated JCM900s when they came out and now they are beloved.
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            • #21
              Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

              Originally posted by Mincer View Post
              Everything>Telecasters
              How is that a controversial amp hot take? Telecasters make terrible amplifiers.

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              • #22
                Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                no one actually knows what power tube distortion sounds like

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                • #23
                  Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                  Being mainly into a tight modern metal sound, I don't think that I like power tube distortion that much.
                  I can probably get it with my 5 watt Picovalve turned all the way up, and it's ok, but much better for a classic rock sound.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                    Power tube distortion>preamp tube distortion

                    Some silverfaces sound really, really good.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                      i agree some silverface amps sound great

                      youve never heard power tube distortion without preamp distortion and probably pi distortion, maybe even speaker breakup

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                      • #26
                        Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                        Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

                        People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
                        Last edited by dave74; 06-14-2020, 06:37 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                          Originally posted by dave74 View Post
                          Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

                          People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
                          Or you've never used either really, really loudly.
                          If you don't play super loud cleans clearly, they sound like crap. If you play distorted super loud, you probably won't hear much unless you are at least 30' in front of the cabinets.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                            Originally posted by dave74 View Post
                            Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

                            People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
                            Depends whether you think picking dynamics are harder to control than muting. The compression you get with high gain is both a positive and a negative in terms of making things easier to play.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                              Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
                              Any high gain amp that's 100 watts is already doing this when you think about it. It's just using preamp tube distortion, virtually no power tube contribution. You can connect a tube pedal in the loop to effectively replace the preamp of a high wattage clean amp to get similar high gain tones.
                              Sure, but I thought you meant distortion pedals based on transistor clipping. I know people who run fairly cheap distortion pedals into the clean channel on a Marshall and think it sounds better than the distortion channel (it really really doesn't).

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                              • #30
                                Re: Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

                                Originally posted by Mincer View Post
                                The classic Dual Rect sound makes every guitar player, guitar, and song sound the same.
                                YES!!!

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