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    Bogner ubers are amazing amps IMO,,,,,,just not game at those prices. Never even considered one due to price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demanic View Post
    Bogner and Line 6 partnered up about a decade ago to make one of the best modeling amps ever, the Spidervalve.
    And the Alchemist. Killer amp. I have both.

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    Alchemist is Line6 too???

    Oh my
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Alchemist is Line6 too???

    Oh my
    Made in China.

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    Damn Chinese stuff

    What do you know...I found a clip I already did ...Bugie does Boogie

    Rough/first mix w/ raw tracks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Alchemist is Line6 too???

    Oh my
    Line 6 did the Delay and Reverb. And did it well. It's been my #1 for the last few years. I think it's bad rap comes from not being super roadworthy. But since mine sits in my little studio . . . no probs so far.

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    TBH, I actually had this same confusion for years. Whenever I'd see someone list a Bogner at thousands of dollars, I instanty thought "WTF?"

    Then, one day, I played an Ecstasy 101B. I never made that mistake again. Shortly after, I played a Twin Jet. And then, shortly after that, bought a Twin Jet.

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    ^^ I lol'd hard at that. Definitely have made that mistake before. The Twin Jet along with a Revv G120 are both my dream metal amps \m/

    I have had a couple Bogners. Even the PCB ones were built like tanks and sounded really good (Barcelona and a New Yorker). The Handwired stuff is amazing and well-crafted. As always, shop used. There are killer deals on eBay or Reverb if you wait patiently.

    I currently own my 2nd Helios 50W (sold the first one) and switched from Kemper back to tubes. The Helios is Bogner's anthology of Marshall's IMO. I like the 50W version better as it is more raw to my ears and the built in variac gets the amp to sag more for a convincing vintage tone. For my purposes, its a one-stop shop for Marshall tones. Each prospective channel just nails an absolute killer tone. The plexi went from hendrix to Page. The hot from Guns N Roses to Opeth/Mastodon. Takes pedals well. Really all I could want from one amp and not have to rely on a *ton of equipment.

    The biggest downfall of the Helios is the channel switching capabilities. You won't be able to a killer clean or overdriven (plexi) tone and then footswitch to the hot channel and rip some leads. There's a huge volume drop *or increase when switching channels. Seems like the amp was designed to have two different voicings with is fine with me, annoying for others. A boost for the plexi channel bridges the gap a little more.

    Here's a reference video of the high gain capability of a Helios. Put up against a Friedman JJ and Uberschall.

    https://youtu.be/et4ucajusZQ

    Some guitar pr0n since this thread needs more photos:



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    Last edited by YeRedHouseOverYonder; Yesterday at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeRedHouseOverYonder View Post
    ^^ I lol'd hard at that. Definitely have made that mistake before. The Twin Jet along with a Revv G120 are both my dream metal amps \m/

    I have had a couple Bogners. Even the PCB ones were built like tanks and sounded really good (Barcelona and a New Yorker). The Handwired stuff is amazing and well-crafted. As always, shop used. There are killer deals on eBay or Reverb if you wait patiently.

    I currently own my 2nd Helios 50W (sold the first one) and switched from Kemper back to tubes. The Helios is Bogner's anthology of Marshall's IMO. I like the 50W version better as it is more raw to my ears and the built in variac gets the amp to sag more for a convincing vintage tone. For my purposes, its a one-stop shop for Marshall tones. Each prospective channel just nails an absolute killer tone. The plexi went from hendrix to Page. The hot from Guns N Roses to Opeth/Mastodon. Takes pedals well. Really all I could want from one amp and not have to rely on a top of equipment.

    The biggest downfall of the Helios is the channel switching capabilities. You won't be able to a killer clean or overdriven (plexi) tone and then footswitch to the hot channel and rip some leads. There's a huge volume drop *or increase when switching channels. Seems like the amp was designed to have two different voicings with is fine with me, annoying for others. A boost for the plexi channel bridges the gap a little more.

    Here's a reference video of the high gain capability of a Helios. Put up against a Friedman JJ and Uberschall.

    https://youtu.be/et4ucajusZQ

    Some guitar pr0n since this thread needs more photos:



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    What did you pay for your Helios ?

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    Waaayyy under what most are selling for right now. I see these sitting at $2200 most of the time. If you're super patient and lucky, I've seen these as low as $1500. They fly off at that point. I paid $1750 shipped for mine. Custom cab is from Sourmash I believe. I asked for $1500, but the seller didn't want to ship this without a head cab. I can't complain tho, as I feel that's a decent deal on a handwired boutique amp. Cheapest one on Reverb right now is $2495 plus shipping, $95, and CA tax.

    I do agree that Bogners do have a certain feel/sound (chew) that some don't like. I am definitely not one of them however.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMP/HBE View Post
    What did you pay for your Helios ?
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