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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantic_Rock View Post
    Try tuning the low E quite a bit flat . This is because when you pick it hard - it will go sharper. (experiment. depends how hard u play)
    Tune the A a little bit less flat, but still flat.
    Tune the D EVER SO SLIGHTLY flat.

    Tune the G - right on the money.
    Tune the B - EVER SO SLIGHTLY sharp.
    Tune the high E - a bit more sharp than the B

    This is similar to the concept of "temperment" and will help your guitar stay in tune better with other instruments. Got this concept from EJ video. It works good. I always tune like this now. Never right on the money for all strings.

    Its a pain to explain it to other guitar players you play with, who have no idea what you are talking about.
    i've read about this before. i've tried to do this before(but at the time i had no tuner, and currently i've got none again) without success, but i can see it working in the right context. what would you say about a compensated nut however?
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    Re the Paganini quote; I heard that from my grand uncle, who gave me my first lessons. I think it's really true though and the players that I always return to are the people with that sort of articulation and tone that comes from how you play a note; they always sound like themselves, unique individuals. Of course, vibrato and release, etc. are in the left, but the color is in the right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by super rad ska View Post
    i've read about this before. i've tried to do this before(but at the time i had no tuner, and currently i've got none again) without success, but i can see it working in the right context. what would you say about a compensated nut however?

    You do realise there's a tuner built into the Toneport? Top right hand corner - the tuning fork icon.

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    i know but yea
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    Make sure whenever you are mic'ing anything at a home studio that there are no little kids(read "hyper crazy people") running amok anywhere near where you're recording, trust me.

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    Try different tunings. Open ones, classic ones, mirrored 5th/4ths etc. This will give you a better control and over your instrument.
    Different tunings give different inspiration and playing possibilities too. Some guy/guys in the past tuned the guitar to E, and this shouldn't be a limiting factor.

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    Even though good gear can help get you good Tone, but IMO a lot of the Tone comes from the guitarists fingers. When you use a lot of distortion it tends to covers things up.

    Even if you play Rock & Metal try practicing your scales and riffs with a nice fat clean Tone. You will be able to hear all the subtle little things that are going on between you and your guitar (including your mistakes). It may help you clean up some things that you might have been missing otherwise and help you achieve better overall Tone??

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    When it comes to hard rock, use slightly less gain than you think you need and then use slightly more volume than you think you need. Instant tonal improvement. This works especially well with hot pickups, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmachine View Post
    fuel your rig from the blood of dead hookers


    That really did make me LOL.

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    For a more natural chorus sound in recordings, double track your guitar part, but in between strum some cowboy chords or whatever with a large amount of strength, this should put your guitar a few cents out of tune, creating a more believable sound of two different guitars playing in unison.

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    I'd like to redact anything I've ever said on the topic of tone and say, as many people have always said... it really just is in your hands. Working as a producer/engineer with many different guitarists and trying to get the best tones possible, it becomes increasingly obvious that the only way to get killer tones is to be a killer player in the first place.

    My hands just sound a certain way, naturally. Regardless of what I play, I've got a slightly rounded top end, really 'squishy' but tight palm mutes, and an overall smoothness to the tone that just just inherently in my playing - it's 100% because that's the kind of sound that I hear in my head, and my hands have been subconsciously trained to facilitate that kind of tone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Monkey View Post
    For a more natural chorus sound in recordings, double track your guitar part, but in between strum some cowboy chords or whatever with a large amount of strength, this should put your guitar a few cents out of tune, creating a more believable sound of two different guitars playing in unison.
    Sorry, but being out of tune is something you should strive to avoid with most all recording situations.

    The best way to make a recording sound bigger/wider is to double track incredibly tightly and just pan in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Kevorkian View Post
    the only way to get killer tones is to be a killer player in the first place.
    no wonder my riff recordings suck
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    Learn to play with your toes for a meatier tone than you could ever get with your fingers.

    That's why the smoother passages are called legatoe.
    Arm got fingers - leg got toes.

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    Wellllllllll

    1) Get to know the tone knob and how it works

    2) Pedals really aren't as important as some people think... they will suck your guitar's soul. try less pedals and more amp volume

    3) Tube amp> solid state amp

    4) Learn the things that make solos beautiful--bends, slides, harmonies, squealies, etc

    5) It will never sound good unless you play the right notes, so learn at least a little theory (which everyone does whether they know it or not)

    6) The amp type matters 100 times more than the type of guitar

    7) Remember to change your strings. It makes a world of difference. Washing hands before and wiping frets down afterwards add life to your strings

    8) If you want to develop great tone/feel in the long run, stop using distortion and play clean. Distortion covers up many technique errors guitarists make, and therefore you never get great at playing. Practice clean for a while, get the technique down, then go back to your effects. It'll sound a ton better than it used to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daemon barbeque View Post
    Try different tunings. Open ones, classic ones, mirrored 5th/4ths etc. This will give you a better control and over your instrument.
    Different tunings give different inspiration and playing possibilities too. Some guy/guys in the past tuned the guitar to E, and this shouldn't be a limiting factor.
    +1

    Try this one...especially with a 12-string.

    Take the b string(s) off. Put the high e string(s) where the b string(s) goes.

    Now tune it: C-G-D-A-E. This takes heavy strings.

    Now you have an octave mandolin on the G-E strings, and a mandocello on the C-A strings.

    Fun stuff, if you play mando/bouzouki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juice View Post
    Wellllllllll
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    8) If you want to develop great tone/feel in the long run, stop using distortion and play clean. Distortion covers up many technique errors guitarists make, and therefore you never get great at playing. Practice clean for a while, get the technique down, then go back to your effects. It'll sound a ton better than it used to!
    Huge!!!

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    If you must use reverb, use as little as possible. Too much reverb can cover you up in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctopusRider View Post
    If you must use reverb, use as little as possible. Too much reverb can cover you up in the mix.
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