Pearly Gates equals?

[jeremy]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

dimarzios mismatched coils are usually (the patent) two coils with different wire types but nominally the same number of turns. so a fred has 5500 turns of #42 on one coil and 5500 turns of #43 on another. i made up the numbers but its an example without knowing the actual turn counts. an old gibson paf might have mismatched coils but it was the turn count that was different, not the wire. so stud coil had 5300 turns and screw coils had 4900 but both were wound with #42 pe. back in the day at gibson it wasnt intentional, just a symptom of human interaction with the winding machine and wear.

as mentioned above, almost all duncan buckers are wound with nominally the same number of turns on both coils, including the pg.

[Francois]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

so a fred has 5500 turns of #42 on one coil and 5500 turns of #43 on another. i made up the numbers but its an example...

Quite interesting !

Does the DMZ FRED sound great on a Strat ?

[jeremy]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

yep

[Aceman]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

I've heard that they're mismatched. Some people who measured them claimed that the mismatch is very slight. Interestingly enough, I've heard the same about burstbuckers that were measured (and they're advertised as having mismatched coils). Perhaps the confusion is from people thinking that they're heavily mismatched when it might just be a few hundred turns +- on each coil. Or perhaps I got caught up in internet BS? I wouldn't say that's impossible.

I haver had this talk w/ Evan and Falbo maybe? Maybe asked MJ. Anyway - the point that keeps coming up is for you to notice anything it has to be considerably different.

[beaubrummels]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

I've heard that they're mismatched. Some people who measured them claimed that the mismatch is very slight. Interestingly enough, I've heard the same about burstbuckers that were measured (and they're advertised as having mismatched coils). Perhaps the confusion is from people thinking that they're heavily mismatched when it might just be a few hundred turns +- on each coil. Or perhaps I got caught up in internet BS? I wouldn't say that's impossible.

If they unwound the pickups completely and counted different numbers of wire turns on each bobbin, they’re mismatched. If they just measured the DCR and it came out different, but within 10% of each other, it’s not mismatched but just normal manufacturing tolerance.

My 36th neck doesn’t sound like any of my Pearly necks. The only pickups I can possibly compare to a Pearly are other Duncans, but none sound exactly alike, just similar in certain sonic areas, like “same top end but different bottom end”, or “like a Pearly with the tone rolled off to 8” kind of comparison.

[jeremy]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

I've heard that they're mismatched. Some people who measured them claimed that the mismatch is very slight. Interestingly enough, I've heard the same about burstbuckers that were measured (and they're advertised as having mismatched coils). Perhaps the confusion is from people thinking that they're heavily mismatched when it might just be a few hundred turns +- on each coil. Or perhaps I got caught up in internet BS? I wouldn't say that's impossible.

its a common myth that the pg has mismatched coils, it just not true. the bb are supposed to be but i havent dug into gibson pups the way i have duncans. i will say that i like the bb1/bb2 set sounds great though

[Teleplayer]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

Dimarzio 36th anniversary are definitely not an equal as they are warm and fat, unless you want to try putting the DP103 version in the bridge slot.

PAF master may be closer, but I tried the neck one and thought it had an uncomfortable honk in the upper mids.

[TVFV]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

Dude, if you want Pearly Gates, then just get Pearly Gates. Looking for an equivalent from another brand is an exercise in futility.

[Aceman]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

I’m not the biggest DiMarzio geek, but I don’t thing there is anything quite like it

[Dave Locher]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

Reading the OP's second post, I believe he is trying to decide if he wants the Duncan pickups, right? And he is trying to base that decision by finding out what DiMarzio pickups they sound closest to because he is familiar with the Dimarzios.

Which means a useful response would be something like "they sound like X but with more bite and less bottom."

[beaubrummels]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

They sound like a 36th with way more top end brightness, no murky humpy mids but even across the mids and some deep solid thunk on the low end. Nothing like you would expect from an A2 PAF, not even like other Duncan A2 PAFs. So they sound just like them but completely different.

[OsvyRock]

Re: Pearly Gates equals?

Hey guys! In a PRS 25'' scale (full mahogany)...
I was thinking of a PGn. Which would be the right bridge pickup for a 1 volume / 1 tone guitar with a 3-way selector. I like the current pickup. It has a Billie Joe (Green Day) vibe that I love. BJA uses a P-90 Antiquity model. I love to play high gain*