newjersey236
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Hello All.. Im thinking about doing a quick rewiring & I want to use a 250k volume pot & a 1Meg pot for the tone instead of 1 Meg Volume & 250k Tone. Has anyone ever done this before?
1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
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newjersey236
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Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
And I know I know... 1 Meg will be bright and harsh and brittle/thin with Single Coils
..However I rewired my main strat with 2 tweaked TBX controls with greasbuckets on the 250k part of the pot and when I turn the pot to the 1 meg section it sounds fine... very quacky and warm, just a tad bit more bright. And the middle pickup is wired without a tone and it sounds about the same brightness as the TBX at 10..
So I would think a plain 1 Meg pot would be similarr to that of a TBX control?
An Alnico 2 Single Coil
And I know I know... 1 Meg will be bright and harsh and brittle/thin with Single Coils
..However I rewired my main strat with 2 tweaked TBX controls with greasbuckets on the 250k part of the pot and when I turn the pot to the 1 meg section it sounds fine... very quacky and warm, just a tad bit more bright. And the middle pickup is wired without a tone and it sounds about the same brightness as the TBX at 10..
So I would think a plain 1 Meg pot would be similarr to that of a TBX control?
idsnowdog
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Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
If you're looking for all of the pickups to use the TBX just wire all of them too it, rather than installing multiple TBX or different value pots.
Tone pot value does not have as much impact on the tone of the pickup as the volume control does. You can use whatever value you like for the tone, but you may not get the same taper as a 250K/500K pot. Also you will need to roughly double the value of the capacitor used with the tone control to get the same amount of treble cut. The major advantage of a large value tone control is when it's out of the circuit you have more treble response than with a 250K.
If you're looking for all of the pickups to use the TBX just wire all of them too it, rather than installing multiple TBX or different value pots.
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Funkfingers
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Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
My only experience of changing between 250K and 1Meg pots was on a Fender CIJ Jaguar. I hated the resistance taper of the OEM 1Meg pots. Everything seemed to happen between 10 and 7. The resistance taper of the 250K pots was much smoother but it ruined the unique Jaguar sound. I may have tried 500K pots also but I cannot remember how those turned out. Ever since, my CIJ Jaguar uses American-made 1Meg pots for the main volume and tone controls.
My only experience of changing between 250K and 1Meg pots was on a Fender CIJ Jaguar. I hated the resistance taper of the OEM 1Meg pots. Everything seemed to happen between 10 and 7. The resistance taper of the 250K pots was much smoother but it ruined the unique Jaguar sound. I may have tried 500K pots also but I cannot remember how those turned out. Ever since, my CIJ Jaguar uses American-made 1Meg pots for the main volume and tone controls.
Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
When the tone control is out of the loop, isn't the value irrelevant? The only reason it would still be relevant is if it was still in the loop, in which case a 1 meg pot would be bleeding less treble to ground than with 500K or 250K.
When the tone control is out of the loop, isn't the value irrelevant? The only reason it would still be relevant is if it was still in the loop, in which case a 1 meg pot would be bleeding less treble to ground than with 500K or 250K.
idsnowdog
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Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
Even at zero a pot will still place a little bit of a load on the circuit, that's why they make no load pots. How much of a load it has and whether you can actually detect it is questionable.
newjersey236
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Re: 1 Meg Tone & 250k Volume Anyone?..
Well i know this may also sound odd to some of youu out there..
But i figuredd the taper of a 1 meg pot would be much much different from that of a 250k pot so i am going to put a greasebuckett circuit on the 1 meg pot so there is even roll off because from reading many comments about 1 meg pots it seems from about 10-7 there is a somewhat even sweep but then from 7-0 it just drops ridiculously...
So im thinking a greasebucket might totally solve the problem of the severe 7-0 treble roll off, just have to change the usual values of caps and resistors though to better match that of a 1 meg pot since a greasebuket mod is usually intended for 250k pots.
So the new values i would need for this mod are..
.02 capacitor ---> .005 capacitor (might just use a .003 cap)
.1 capacitor ----> .02 capacitor (probably use .033 for more treble roll off)
4.7k resistor ----> 18.8k resistor
Crazyy huh?
Well i know this may also sound odd to some of youu out there..
But i figuredd the taper of a 1 meg pot would be much much different from that of a 250k pot so i am going to put a greasebuckett circuit on the 1 meg pot so there is even roll off because from reading many comments about 1 meg pots it seems from about 10-7 there is a somewhat even sweep but then from 7-0 it just drops ridiculously...
So im thinking a greasebucket might totally solve the problem of the severe 7-0 treble roll off, just have to change the usual values of caps and resistors though to better match that of a 1 meg pot since a greasebuket mod is usually intended for 250k pots.
So the new values i would need for this mod are..
.02 capacitor ---> .005 capacitor (might just use a .003 cap)
.1 capacitor ----> .02 capacitor (probably use .033 for more treble roll off)
4.7k resistor ----> 18.8k resistor
Crazyy huh?
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