1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

[brentrocks]

For Sale....all original 1981 LPC Silverburst!

* Original Tim Shaw PAFs
* Gibson OHSC
* Kahler locking trem
* Ebony board

Awesome player, killer tone, no dissapointments!!! It has some character marks, but its 30 yrs old for petes sake!!! Frets are great, action is perfect, neck is true. It weighs 12 lbs.

NO BREAKS OR REPAIRS!

brentrocks@aol.com for questions

$2650 + shipping

Thanks for looking!

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Is the Kahler original?

 

[brentrocks]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Is the Kahler original?

i was told from the previous owner it is original...but i have no way to be 100% sure.

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Sorry, that was a bit of a loaded question. If it were original, it would be the Flyer type with the spring loaded saddles, would say Gibson on the baseplate, and would be chrome like the rest of the hardware. As a guy who's had countless older Gibsons through his hands for years and years, as well as selling at least one relatively rare Kahler on this very forum earlier this year, I know you'd know more than to call it 100% original and then lean on the excuse of 'previous owner told me'. I wanted to see if you'd come clean.

 

[brentrocks]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Sorry, that was a bit of a loaded question. If it were original, it would be the Flyer type with the spring loaded saddles, would say Gibson on the baseplate, and would be chrome like the rest of the hardware. I wanted to see if you'd come clean.

its very possible that the original trem was damaged and it was replaced by this unit?

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

its very possible that the original trem was damaged and it was replaced by this unit?

Possible, maybe, but then it's not 100% original, is it? You know what you're doing and I'm tired of seeing it happen. I'm about ready to arcade button the hell out of this. If I'm wrong, prove it and I'll back off and apologize, but I'm not.

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Right. Well, he's been corrected via pm on several occasions by other members of the forum in regards to misrepresentation and either told them to shove it or "well, i don't know, but the previous owner told me..."

I'm glad you had a good transaction. Hopefully you didn't buy any beachfront property in Montana.

Either way, I always look like an ass. I've watched him do this more than once and I consider this to be watching out for people. Judge away, broseph.

 

[brentrocks]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Possible, maybe, but then it's not 100% original, is it? You know what you're doing and I'm tired of seeing it happen. I'm about ready to arcade button the hell out of this. If I'm wrong, prove it and I'll back off and apologize, but I'm not.

I was not aware of the Gibson logo on the kahlers. I am going by the what I was told by the last owner. With all the deals I do, I would be foolish to try to intentially deceive people. That's not how I roll.

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

It's ok, man. That's how you see it, but it's not how I see it. I saw him selling a parts guitar as a near-mint, almost NOS Gibson. I saw him misrepresenting a Martin after a trusted friend corrected him via pm and was told to shove off, he doesn't know anything. Now, I see a guitar that a guy who, ostensibly, is familiar with older Gibsons and Kahlers, calling a non-original guitar all-original. That's what I see. You see what you want. The more people see this, the fewer will get ripped off. I might do this on another forum common to the both of us, too, and like I said: should I be wrong, I'll punch myself in the nuts and apologize.

But I don't think I'll need to.

 

[brentrocks]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Right. Well, he's been corrected via pm on several occasions by other members of the forum in regards to misrepresentation and either told them to shove it or "well, i don't know, but the previous owner told me..."

I'm glad you had a good transaction. Hopefully you didn't buy any beachfront property in Montana.

Either way, I always look like an ass. I've watched him do this more than once and I consider this to be watching out for people. Judge away, broseph.

Do you think that with all the deals I do all over the Internet on multiple forums, if I was the scum of the earth you make me out to be that I would have the stellar reputation that I do? I have NEVER had a guitar deal go bad....NEVER. So you better re evaluate your statements, because I have references to back up my reputation as a reputable seller till the cows come home. If the kahler is original, fine, if it's not, that's fine too. It's a great guitar and the new owner will love it. I place my reputation on it.

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Yet it's nearly 40 minutes since that post and the OP still states it as all original. How about a shot of the bridge rout? That'd add about 5 minutes to the total time of a string change. Til then, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, that it may have been factory Kahler'd, but that's NOT factory Kahler, and thus, not all original. As far as your previous sales went, there are some people that don't know enough about what they're buying to know they've been had...

 

[joaocunha]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

I don't know shi* about Gibson guitars, but I do know when a seller is legit by having done dozens of transactions through these forums - and, most important, 100% of them being international.

That said, I can add to brentrock's rep. Bought some Schaller tailpieces from him a while back, he packed the hell outta it, never tried to screw me with shipping fees and shipped them out very very fast.

Anyway, I agree that that the OP should state that the item is not original, but only after being sure of it. By now, a reply like "i have no way to be 100% sure" seems to be straight enough.

formula73, I can't see enough reasons for such a buzz and bad manner. You could have meaned the exact same thing by saying "As a Gibson expert by yaddayaddayadda, I don't think the Kahler is original because yaddayaddayadda".

 

[misterwhizzy]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

At the very least, I think it's safe to say that when asking over $2500 for a guitar, you do a little research into what exactly it is you're selling. Is that fair enough? You know how much it goes for, but you don't know what parts should be included? I don't think those two jibe very well.

 

[Wattage]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

Not likely factory in '81 at least not as a production model.

I don't think it's necessary to cause a ****storm over it though

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

At the very least, I think it's safe to say that when asking over $2500 for a guitar, you do a little research into what exactly it is you're selling. Is that fair enough? You know how much it goes for, but you don't know what parts should be included? I don't think those two jibe very well.

I don't, either, and I certainly don't care if I look like an asshole. Maybe one of the dudes, who threw down to cover TC's losses over my stolen Hamer, who's thinking how awesome and rare and original this is, can keep his money and buy the same thing for 1/2 that price somewhere else. Good karma, coming back.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

well I know he posted thta martin I nearly bought, but Lucid saved me form that, as I wasnt the Martin the Op claimed it was and wroth hundreds of dollars less.

 

[Lucid_Lunatic]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

well I know he posted thta martin I nearly bought, but Lucid saved me form that, as I wasnt the Martin the Op claimed it was and wroth hundreds of dollars less.

I'll vouch for this because I sent the OP a message about the actual model it was shortly after he posted it for sale. As far as I know, he never advertised it to Jerry as the actual model it was after receiving the info.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

I'll vouch for this because I sent the OP a message about the actual model it was shortly after he posted it for sale. As far as I know, he never advertised it to Jerry as the actual model it was after receiving the info.

And regardless of how many transactions you have online, that's straight up misrepresentation bull****. I understand that with the economy the way it is you don't want to take any more of a hit than you need to on something you're selling, but at least advertise it as the item it really is.

 

[joaocunha]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

My whole point was about the approach, almost calling it a fake. Also, I didn't know of any deal gone bad with him. Just felt the guy was getting beat for no actual reason, specially having done a smooth deal with him before.

 

[formula73]

Re: 1981 Gibson Les Paul Custom SILVERBURST

No reason to defend yourself, man. You stuck up for a guy who did you right. There's no shame in that.