250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
I don't have the JB/Jazz per se, but I use 250k pots with a couple of my humbucker guitars. It does mellow the tone a nice amount. Its one of those things you just have to try to see if it suits you. Its fairly dependent on what system you play through.
I don't have the JB/Jazz per se, but I use 250k pots with a couple of my humbucker guitars. It does mellow the tone a nice amount. Its one of those things you just have to try to see if it suits you. Its fairly dependent on what system you play through.
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Lewguitar
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
Yes...250K pots will throw away some treble allowing some treble to leak to ground even when the pots are on "10".
If the Jazz and JB sound like they have to much treble to you, then you may like the tone you get with 250K pots better.
lew
Yes...250K pots will throw away some treble allowing some treble to leak to ground even when the pots are on "10".
If the Jazz and JB sound like they have to much treble to you, then you may like the tone you get with 250K pots better.
lew
JB_From_Hell
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
Weren't they originally intended for 250k pots, as in those in Beck's tele? I know the original JB & Jazz are a far cry from the ones from today, but still....
Weren't they originally intended for 250k pots, as in those in Beck's tele? I know the original JB & Jazz are a far cry from the ones from today, but still....
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Lewguitar
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
I don't know if they were actually designed for 250K pots. Seymour uses that set in his Tele Gib with 250K pots but lots of players like them in a Les Paul with 500K pots.
Personally, I think the Jazz sounds better with 500K pots.
The JB with 250K pots has less treble than the Custom Custom with 500K pots...and the Custom Custom is not thought of by most players as being a pickup with an over abundance of treble.
Lew
JB_From_Hell said:
I don't know if they were actually designed for 250K pots. Seymour uses that set in his Tele Gib with 250K pots but lots of players like them in a Les Paul with 500K pots.
Personally, I think the Jazz sounds better with 500K pots.
The JB with 250K pots has less treble than the Custom Custom with 500K pots...and the Custom Custom is not thought of by most players as being a pickup with an over abundance of treble.
Lew
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
Someday we'll all get with the Aceman's program on this....
Use 300K pots for souped up hot buckers in the bridge. They are already treble eq'd to death, and near the bridge. For the neck in any Paul - go with a 500k to open it up and De-mud/clarify the neck pup.
If you want to "try the 300" before you get them turn the tone down to about 7, and leave it there for a few days/weeks/months - whatever you need. That's the same (about) as a full up 300k on a 500k audio taper volume pot. If after that time you are into the sound, replace the pots.
Someday we'll all get with the Aceman's program on this....
Use 300K pots for souped up hot buckers in the bridge. They are already treble eq'd to death, and near the bridge. For the neck in any Paul - go with a 500k to open it up and De-mud/clarify the neck pup.
If you want to "try the 300" before you get them turn the tone down to about 7, and leave it there for a few days/weeks/months - whatever you need. That's the same (about) as a full up 300k on a 500k audio taper volume pot. If after that time you are into the sound, replace the pots.
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Lewguitar
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
What do you guys have against a little treble??? I just don't get it. :laugh2: A humbucker has no real highs compared to a Strat single coil and you want to make it duller?
Personally, I don't like to play solos with my guitar's volume control on 7.
Always sounds better to me on 10.
For me personally, I prefer all humbuckers with 500K pots.
With 250K pots or even 300K pots most humbuckers sound dull and wooly to me. Like I said, the JB with 250K pots is not even as trebley as a Custom Custom with 500K pots and the CC is not a trebley humbucker.
But that's to my ears...
Lew
Aceman said:
What do you guys have against a little treble??? I just don't get it. :laugh2: A humbucker has no real highs compared to a Strat single coil and you want to make it duller?
Personally, I don't like to play solos with my guitar's volume control on 7.
Always sounds better to me on 10.
For me personally, I prefer all humbuckers with 500K pots.
With 250K pots or even 300K pots most humbuckers sound dull and wooly to me. Like I said, the JB with 250K pots is not even as trebley as a Custom Custom with 500K pots and the CC is not a trebley humbucker.
But that's to my ears...
Lew
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Stratsky
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
I have a PRS CE22 that's real, real bright and instead of replacing the pickups right off the bat I thought I'd try 250K pots. Surprizingly it isn't the JB (the JB sounds real full and is "middy" not trebly). The Jazz is ear piercing in this guitar. I believe it's this guitar though. I had a Jazz in a Strat at one time and liked it in that guitar.
Lewguitar said:
I have a PRS CE22 that's real, real bright and instead of replacing the pickups right off the bat I thought I'd try 250K pots. Surprizingly it isn't the JB (the JB sounds real full and is "middy" not trebly). The Jazz is ear piercing in this guitar. I believe it's this guitar though. I had a Jazz in a Strat at one time and liked it in that guitar.
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Lewguitar
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
Some of those double cutaway PRS and Hamer guitars lack the bass and lower mids of a single cutaway Les Paul. And because they lack bass and mids (comparitively) they sound brighter. You might check your tone pot and see if it's connected to the middle terminal of the volume pot...that's the 50's mod and will make a guitar brighter. Hamers are wired that way and maybe PRS is too? If that's the case, and it sound to bright for your tastes, move the connection for the tone control to the same terminal of the volume pot that the pickups are attached to. That's only if the tone control has been connected to the middle terminal of the volume control.
You don't happen to have a no load tone pot in there do you? That'll make the guitar seem brighter too.
Lew
Stratsky said:
Some of those double cutaway PRS and Hamer guitars lack the bass and lower mids of a single cutaway Les Paul. And because they lack bass and mids (comparitively) they sound brighter. You might check your tone pot and see if it's connected to the middle terminal of the volume pot...that's the 50's mod and will make a guitar brighter. Hamers are wired that way and maybe PRS is too? If that's the case, and it sound to bright for your tastes, move the connection for the tone control to the same terminal of the volume pot that the pickups are attached to. That's only if the tone control has been connected to the middle terminal of the volume control.
You don't happen to have a no load tone pot in there do you? That'll make the guitar seem brighter too.
Lew
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Lewguitar
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Re: 250K pots with JB/Jazz combo
Yeah. When I was 20 years old I felt the same way. :laugh2: Then I saw Roy Buchanan around 1970, found a '51 Tele for $125. changed my life.
Pssssst: it takes a real man to shape a great tone from a Strat or Tele, using only his two hands, a cord and an old amp! :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Lew
Aceman said:
Yeah. When I was 20 years old I felt the same way. :laugh2: Then I saw Roy Buchanan around 1970, found a '51 Tele for $125. changed my life.
Pssssst: it takes a real man to shape a great tone from a Strat or Tele, using only his two hands, a cord and an old amp! :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Lew
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