ill be obtaining a 6 string ibanez bass for nothing and since i dont like the low b i wanted to know whats the way to go higher. im playing in a metal band and tune mostly to drop c and standard a step below. should i just adjust the truss rod and tune up ??? which way do i adjust the rod since i havent done it in like 4 years when i adjusted my jazz bass for drop tunings
6 string bass
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Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: 6 string bass
why getting six string if you'll not use the extended tuning range it has? i mean it already has a high A and a low b so why would you want to change that for another hgiher string? You'd be robbing youreself of a lot of flexibility if you eliminate the low b. Also it might be hard to find a fitting set of strings,since a low b usually is something like a 135 string which is really heavy and probably too tight in higher tunings. keep the low b and just think and play without it but getting rid of it would be pointless imo. otherwise if you wanna tune up you're right: tune up and adjust the trussrod.
why getting six string if you'll not use the extended tuning range it has? i mean it already has a high A and a low b so why would you want to change that for another hgiher string? You'd be robbing youreself of a lot of flexibility if you eliminate the low b. Also it might be hard to find a fitting set of strings,since a low b usually is something like a 135 string which is really heavy and probably too tight in higher tunings. keep the low b and just think and play without it but getting rid of it would be pointless imo. otherwise if you wanna tune up you're right: tune up and adjust the trussrod.
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Erlend_G
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Re: 6 string bass
Err, you mean a high C?
Well, i guess that there is no point in going below low B. First of all, not even the most expensive hi-fi speaker will be able to reproduce a note under low B correctly, you'll not proably hear it yourself, let alone with a band.
You'll be fine with a standard tuned 5 or 6'er.
-Erlend
Loserchief said:
Err, you mean a high C?
Well, i guess that there is no point in going below low B. First of all, not even the most expensive hi-fi speaker will be able to reproduce a note under low B correctly, you'll not proably hear it yourself, let alone with a band.
You'll be fine with a standard tuned 5 or 6'er.
-Erlend
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Erlend_G
Guest
Re: 6 string bass
But hey... there's only one Jean Baudin in this world... and that's more than enough :bigthumb:
Akrin said:A few super-extended-range players (Stew MacKinsey, Jean Baudin, etc) play a low F#, and Jean has a low C# below that on at least one of his basses (an 11 string :bigthumb
But hey... there's only one Jean Baudin in this world... and that's more than enough :bigthumb:
Bass_Medic_05
Purveyor of Low End
Re: 6 string bass
Hey if it's cheap I say go for it.
Hey if it's cheap I say go for it.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: 6 string bass
I disagree, Good Hi-Fi speakers and good ears can hear the Sub-contra B an octave BELOW the 5 string bass with minimal issues.
Erlend_G said:Err, you mean a high C?
Well, i guess that there is no point in going below low B. First of all, not even the most expensive hi-fi speaker will be able to reproduce a note under low B correctly, you'll not proably hear it yourself, let alone with a band.
You'll be fine with a standard tuned 5 or 6'er.
-Erlend
I disagree, Good Hi-Fi speakers and good ears can hear the Sub-contra B an octave BELOW the 5 string bass with minimal issues.
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Erlend_G
Guest
Re: 6 string bass
Well, a low B is... around 30 hz? Which means an octave below that would be 15 hz. And i have yet to see a speaker that can go below 20 hz... and atleast my ears doesn't hear anything under 25 hz.
Anyway, i migth be wrong
Zerberus said:I disagree, Good Hi-Fi speakers and good ears can hear the Sub-contra B an octave BELOW the 5 string bass with minimal issues.
Well, a low B is... around 30 hz? Which means an octave below that would be 15 hz. And i have yet to see a speaker that can go below 20 hz... and atleast my ears doesn't hear anything under 25 hz.
Anyway, i migth be wrong
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: 6 string bass
The Subcontra B is 30.875 Hz (One octave under a standard 5 string´s Contra B at 61.75 Hz) easily within the audible range for most ("Standard" is 20Hz-20kHz).... Some psychos go an octave below that, I´ve seen Low C' strings flopping away 17Hz (that´s just under where I can still hear something, I go to about a sub-subcontra E on a good day )
http://www.fippless.org/Theory/PitchNames
REALLY Good Hi-Fi systems have a frequency range from around 5hz to 25KHz. It´s not quite so easy to find speakers for sound production in this case as it is to find ones capable of reproduction, a bassist wanting to go that low would likely be using a 2x18 or even 2x20...
The Subcontra B is 30.875 Hz (One octave under a standard 5 string´s Contra B at 61.75 Hz) easily within the audible range for most ("Standard" is 20Hz-20kHz).... Some psychos go an octave below that, I´ve seen Low C' strings flopping away 17Hz (that´s just under where I can still hear something, I go to about a sub-subcontra E on a good day
)http://www.fippless.org/Theory/PitchNames
REALLY Good Hi-Fi systems have a frequency range from around 5hz to 25KHz. It´s not quite so easy to find speakers for sound production in this case as it is to find ones capable of reproduction, a bassist wanting to go that low would likely be using a 2x18 or even 2x20...
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Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: 6 string bass
sorry, i got that confused a bit. i went from an E like on a guitar but of course it's a G on bass so you're definitely right.
Erlend_G said:Err, you mean a high C?
sorry, i got that confused a bit. i went from an E like on a guitar but of course it's a G on bass so you're definitely right.
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Erlend_G
Guest
Re: 6 string bass
Err, i'm sorry mate, but a bass guitar's B is 30.875 hz. The B on a seven string guitar is 61.75 hz.
If not i migth be completely wrong.
Zerberus said:The Subcontra B is 30.875 Hz (One octave under a standard 5 string´s Contra B at 61.75 Hz) easily within the audible range for most ("Standard" is 20Hz-20kHz).... Some psychos go an octave below that, I´ve seen Low C' strings flopping away 17Hz (that´s just under where I can still hear something, I go to about a sub-subcontra E on a good day
http://www.fippless.org/Theory/PitchNames
REALLY Good Hi-Fi systems have a frequency range from around 5hz to 25KHz. It´s not quite so easy to find speakers for sound production in this case as it is to find ones capable of reproduction, a bassist wanting to go that low would likely be using a 2x18 or even 2x20...
Err, i'm sorry mate, but a bass guitar's B is 30.875 hz. The B on a seven string guitar is 61.75 hz.
If not i migth be completely wrong.
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Erlend_G
Guest
Re: 6 string bass
Ditto.
Do you hear us, Zerb?
MattPete said:
Ditto.
Do you hear us, Zerb?
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: 6 string bass
A4 = 440 HZ = 2 octaves over a guitars a string.... this is why the classic method of tuning with a fork and the a string harmonic on the fifth fret works at all.
2 octaves down = guitar´s open a string = 110Hz (A2)
One more octave down = 55 Hz = Contra A (A1)= Standard open Bass a string
one MORE octave down = SUB contra A (A0)= 27.5Hz ... Slightly lower than the B-string of a standard tuned 5 string
I had a brain fart somehow, 30.875 Hz IS the Subcontra B and the 5 Strings Bass string... I forgot that Contra /Subcontra / Great and such all start counting on A for some reason, likely becasue the E-bass is tuned like a contrabass but the 5th string extends the range down instead of up
Erlend_G said:Ditto.
Do you hear us, Zerb?
A4 = 440 HZ = 2 octaves over a guitars a string.... this is why the classic method of tuning with a fork and the a string harmonic on the fifth fret works at all.
2 octaves down = guitar´s open a string = 110Hz (A2)
One more octave down = 55 Hz = Contra A (A1)= Standard open Bass a string
one MORE octave down = SUB contra A (A0)= 27.5Hz ... Slightly lower than the B-string of a standard tuned 5 string
I had a brain fart somehow, 30.875 Hz IS the Subcontra B and the 5 Strings Bass string... I forgot that Contra /Subcontra / Great and such all start counting on A for some reason, likely becasue the E-bass is tuned like a contrabass but the 5th string extends the range down instead of up