A 'Fizz' solution.

[ozzynotwood]

Hey guys.

Like alot of tube-amp owers have said, solid state high-gain (amps and pedals) has too much 'fizz' on the top end (Think randalls, SS marshalls for that Ill Nino, Static-X tone).

I think I've found a solution. I heard some clips of that harmonic coverger pedal. First WITHOUT the H/C after a distortion pedal, then WITH the H/C after a distortion pedal. It sounds to me the H/C engages a low pass filter at around 6k, and boost the uppers mids around 1.5k - 2.5k. I think I was able to put together my own H/C using the gear I've already got.

I used a SD loaded Schecter -> DOD Supra distortion (cranked right up, lots of fizz!) -> BOSS GE-7 -> BOSS GE-7 (yes, another one) -> Randall G3 head -> Marshall 1960A.


The secret to killing the fizz and simulating the H/C was this.....

1. Take the 6.4k bands on each EQ pedal and drop it all the way down.
2. Boost the bands 1.5k and 3.2k to get back any lost highs from step on the 1st EQ pedal.
3. Adjust the mids, lower mids, and lows to to your liking.
4. Fine tune any frequencies on the 2nd EQ pedal.

What i ended up with was a tube-like sound you would hear from a professionaly recorded CD.

I just wanted to share that with everyone, because on the hundreds of 'fizz' threads I've read (especially on the BOSS forums), I havent heard of anyone doing that before. If anyone has 2 GE-7's, I'd like to know if this worked for you.

 

[guitarded]

Re: A 'Fizz' solution.

There is a ton of information about this device... on the line6 forums. The inventor of the device is the touring guitarist for Neil Diamond's band, but there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding this device, what you get for your $$ and how much $$ he is charging for it.

Hey guys.

Like alot of tube-amp owers have said, solid state high-gain (amps and pedals) has too much 'fizz' on the top end (Think randalls, SS marshalls for that Ill Nino, Static-X tone).

I think I've found a solution. I heard some clips of that harmonic coverger pedal. First WITHOUT the H/C after a distortion pedal, then WITH the H/C after a distortion pedal. It sounds to me the H/C engages a low pass filter at around 6k, and boost the uppers mids around 1.5k - 2.5k. I think I was able to put together my own H/C using the gear I've already got.

I used a SD loaded Schecter -> DOD Supra distortion (cranked right up, lots of fizz!) -> BOSS GE-7 -> BOSS GE-7 (yes, another one) -> Randall G3 head -> Marshall 1960A.


The secret to killing the fizz and simulating the H/C was this.....

1. Take the 6.4k bands on each EQ pedal and drop it all the way down.
2. Boost the bands 1.5k and 3.2k to get back any lost highs from step on the 1st EQ pedal.
3. Adjust the mids, lower mids, and lows to to your liking.
4. Fine tune any frequencies on the 2nd EQ pedal.

What i ended up with was a tube-like sound you would hear from a professionaly recorded CD.

I just wanted to share that with everyone, because on the hundreds of 'fizz' threads I've read (especially on the BOSS forums), I havent heard of anyone doing that before. If anyone has 2 GE-7's, I'd like to know if this worked for you.

 

[ozzynotwood]

Re: A 'Fizz' solution.

There is a ton of information about this device... on the line6 forums. The inventor of the device is the touring guitarist for Neil Diamond's band, but there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding this device, what you get for your $$ and how much $$ he is charging for it.

Yeah, I've heard he doesnt tell anybody exactly how it works. Maybe i just figured it out

 

[guitarded]

Re: A 'Fizz' solution.

Well you might have. If you follow the Line6 forum, there are some that say they de-fizz the PodXT by setting up the post EQ like you described. It has been said that his device is little more a band pass filter. I can't really have an opinion since my H.F. hearing loss is so severe, I don't really notice subtle fizz that much, it is hard for me to understand the deal.

Line6's responses on fizz have been that if the fizz is in the real amps, it is in the POD models of those amps as well. It is a rather sore subject over there on the forums.

Yeah, I've heard he doesnt tell anybody exactly how it works. Maybe i just figured it out