A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

Lazarus1140

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No doubt there are many possible culprits, but in your opinion, what is the source of the hum.

My amp hums. Naturally, the most obvious reason is that it doesn't know the lyrics, but it hums.

Whether something is plugged into the input or not it hums. It is a low mid frequency hum. The amp has to warm up. In fact the hum increases in volume as the tubes warm up. Once it is loud enough to be heard it remains at a certain low volume and is unaffected by volume pot adjustments. I have tried it in several places in the house where there are no light and where there are no cmputers on the circuit. It is not a loud hum. It is just loud enougth to be a hassle for a soundman between songs when the amp is mic'd. The greatest problem, though, is that it hums. I don't want that and I think that it must be a sign of a bad design, a defective component or components, poor grounding, or poor lead dress. It is driving me insane because aside from the hum the amp sounds glorious.

It is basically a Blackface Princeton circuit with 3-12AX7, 1-12AT7, 2-6V6, with 5AR4. The rectifier glows a lot brighter than the 6V6s if that means anything, and I am surprised that it runs relativey hot - even at idle.

What happened to Glassman? Lew, does Bruce still check in now and then? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

How old is the amp ? I would go for filter caps in the P.S. needing replacing.
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

How old is the amp ? I would go for filter caps in the P.S. needing replacing.

The amp is brand new. Right after I posted this thread the builder called me. He also left a mesage on my phone yesterday that I'm not techie enough to know I received. He is going to build a replacement. Even so, I am curious as to what the issue is.
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

Hums and howls could be bad solder joints
Loose components

I had a cracked solder joint on one of my tubes on the Belair
It was fine till it warmed up
If I hit a note it would sustain right into blaring feedback
It was the reverb tube if I remember correctly

If it gets louder when it warms up it could be heat related
Again I would think solder joint
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

The builder asked if the hum was still present with the reverb off, and it is. Then he asked me to pull the V1 tube, and that had no effect either. That's when he decided to "build another amp" to send me. Today I send an email suggesting that I just return the chassis for repair, Why risk freight damage to the cabinet twice?
Anyway, I'm really please with how anxious they have been to resolve the issue.
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

This sounds like a good experience. I thought that was a thing of the past. You're getting vintage customer service.
 
Re: A QUESTION FOR AMP TECHS/BUILDERS/GURUS

Hum can come from a myriad of places, and it’s often hard to pinpoint the exact culprit of it vicariously. However there is generally only two types of him that you deal with in a guitar amp. The frequency of the hum can tell you a lot about it’s orgin, but unfortunately may not give an exact location. If the hum radiates at around 60hz, or has a 60hz component its coming from the Filament supply most of the time. If the hum is at 120hz it’s being coupled from the rectified power supply somewhere which also includes the signal grounding, whether it’s a layout issue where a super high impedance node is to close to a particularly noisy sub circuit, the grounding is sub optimal, or something has failed, it’s all an extension of the same thing. Although it sounds simple enough, it really encompasses quite a bit more than most realize because everything else in the amplifier is merely an extension of the power supply when you really break it down.
 
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