A wery interesting article with Angus Young

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A few months ago, I got to play through a Schaffer. Definitely added to the vibe in a way that straight dirt boxes don't.
 
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A few months ago, I got to play through a Schaffer. Definitely added to the vibe in a way that straight dirt boxes don't.

Thats cool! I had never heard of a Schaffer before this article. Can you describe what it added in tone please?
 
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There was a story of the Shaffer-Vega wireless in may's issue of Guitar player. Apparently it has a compression and a expander circuit and it could provide boost of 100 db.
 
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Thats cool! I had never heard of a Schaffer before this article. Can you describe what it added in tone please?
hard to describe. Lovegun succinctly describes how it works but it added a cool squish to the feel as well as tweaking EQ a bit. The result was that even through a Hot Rod Deluxe, it was easy to get a Malcolm Young thing going on. It doesn't add a ton of dirt itself but shapes the EQ to give a very pleasant sounding overdrive out of the amp.
 
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I still dont really understand it. Its a wireless guitar system used as an overdrive?
 
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wait theres a built in booster to boost the signal. So whats so special about it? Why cant you get that sound from another pedal?
 
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No, its a wireless system used as a wireless system. Its just that its one of the ingredients for getting ac/dc tone. I suppose similar to using a coiled guitar cable gives you some of the highs rolloff for jimi tone.
 
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Interesting. I always thought he just went straight in.
 
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Throughout my life I've often wondered what the point is obsessing over tone is, artists themselves don't know what their "tone" is. They could describe it with words, sure, if they absolutely needed to but most of them and us just just fiddle with knobs until we like the sound. I can understand buying for instance an SG Standard if you want to follow the ac/dc sound, but the truth is that there's so many other things that affect the sound that it's kind of worthless to obsess over a certain wiring system.

this isn't a jab at this thread of at guitars players in general, it's just my 2 cents.
 
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Throughout my life I've often wondered what the point is obsessing over tone is, artists themselves don't know what their "tone" is. They could describe it with words, sure, if they absolutely needed to but most of them and us just just fiddle with knobs until we like the sound. I can understand buying for instance an SG Standard if you want to follow the ac/dc sound, but the truth is that there's so many other things that affect the sound that it's kind of worthless to obsess over a certain wiring system.

this isn't a jab at this thread of at guitars players in general, it's just my 2 cents.

Ive always wondered what was so special about the Ac/dc sound. If it was "mixed" that way or what ever. All other sounds from artists I understand and usually easy to replicate. So the elusiveness of the sound that should be so easy to get just with volume wasent there. So just curious ;)
 
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Ive always wondered what was so special about the Ac/dc sound. If it was "mixed" that way or what ever. All other sounds from artists I understand and usually easy to replicate. So the elusiveness of the sound that should be so easy to get just with volume wasent there. So just curious ;)

but does it need to be there in order for the compositions to speak for themselves? I believe not. What screws up the tone we already have in our minds is the idea of what it should be.

I could play a few ac/dc tunes with the equipment I have right now and a solid band and you wouldn't be missing that marshall or wizard or whatever-it-is tone
 
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I still dont really understand it. Its a wireless guitar system used as an overdrive?
I wouldn't even describe it as an overdrive. It's more of a compressor/EQ. Also, the Schaffer boxes being made today aren't actually wireless. You just plug in more like you would with a preamp.

I wouldn't pay what they're asking for the things but it does something more than your garden variety dirt box. Here's the one I played. It was a special clear case they did for NAMM.
 
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Interesting. I always thought he just went straight in.

Originally yes, and at some stage for live he got a wireless to avoid the issue with tripping up everyone except Phil Rudd. I'm sure at that stage they tweaked the settings so it sounded good live. Maybe at some later recording date they realised that the sound it got was necessary for the proper tone, or maybe Angus actually plays in the studio like he does on stage and needed the freedom there too.
 
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Throughout my life I've often wondered what the point is obsessing over tone is

Glenn.. Do you remember when you first joined and you made endless posts about katy perry? yeah its the same thing its just sound. Guys get into something and want to know the tiniest detail about it.
 
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Originally yes, and at some stage for live he got a wireless to avoid the issue with tripping up everyone except Phil Rudd. I'm sure at that stage they tweaked the settings so it sounded good live. Maybe at some later recording date they realised that the sound it got was necessary for the proper tone, or maybe Angus actually plays in the studio like he does on stage and needed the freedom there too.

From what I heard the wireless was used in the studio because the amps were in another room a long ways away and there were issues with the long cable runs so they used the wireless to try and avoid it.

No idea if its true... just what i heard... no idea why they didnt put the head next to him and just run the speaker cable that far either...
 
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Ah, interesting.

Certainly not many recording artists sit in front of a blasting amp in the studio, it is in another room, but with some form of low impedance cabling as attachment. I think Slash is the only one who tries and replicates his live setup and has monitors + cranked amp in the room with him.
 
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Here's some pictures from the early days with Angus and Malcolm with other than the usual guitars.
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