About time I broke out of the Tubescreamer world...

misterwhizzy

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I recently built this kit with my daughter, and it's a whole new world to me now. First of all, I can get non-hard-rock tones with my Les Paul that actually inspire me to play. The other thing is that I'm actually using it as a drive rather than a boost. I'm so used to just going with the gain all the way down and the drive all the way up that I forgot there are other ways to do it. But with my TS-style ODs, that's still the way I'll run them.

Anyways, I don't do the clean amp with pedals thing. I love amp breakup, and a boosted amp breaking up is a glorious thing, as I'm sure we all know. But the sound here is too good to pass up. I'm really digging it so far.

A couple of build notes before I finish with the moral of my story. I had put together a BYOC flanger kit that I have yet to get working, so I really wanted this one to be spot on from the word go. It wasn't. I took care with everything (or so I thought), finally finished everything with the build looking pretty clean, and I took it up to my pedalboard. Plugged it in, turned on the amp, stomped on the pedal, bright blue light, and... no sound.

I was just depressed at the time. I didn't want to look at it. It was just dejection. So I went to try if I could see what was going on the day after, and I opened it up, and I felt something hot. I had put one of the ICs in backwards. I reversed it, but still no luck. I figured I'd order a new one from Mouser and give it a go in a couple of days when I got the new one.

I ordered a pair of replacement ICs--the cost of the parts is minimal in comparison to the shipping, so why not two?--and got them a few days later. I figured I had to have burned it out, but after replacing it, I still had nothing. Bypassed tone was the same as always, but press that button, and nada.

So I start scouring the internet for troubleshooting tips, and one of the first posts I happen across says something to the effect of, "Everyone sucks at soldering. Touch up every single joint again, then try to find more help." Sure enough, that nailed it down. It's tedious, but it fixed it, and that's what I needed. For what it's worth, I really had to tune with my ears rather than my eyes, because the kit came without knobs. I'll have to get Centaur-style knobs just because, but I don't have any yet.

I never have, and I probably never will, play through an actual Klon Centaur, but this overdrive is a classic, and it really works with my setup.

P.S. Pics or it didn't happen. I know. It's late, and there are people in that room trying to sleep. Plus, it's just a plain, aluminum box. I'll get there.
 
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I have to say, I am interested in building this. Is it hard? I am not really sure if I 'get' the Klon sound (or is it a feel thing), but I'd certainly like to try.
 
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My experience soldering comes from EE labs in college. I wouldn't call myself good at it. But if you can follow instructions and be patient, it's relatively easy. Since you've obviously replaced your pickups, it's simple enough to do.

Can I say it's worth saving ten bucks over a Soul Food? No, I can't, because I've never played through a Soul Food. But if building a pedal is something you'd like to do, I would say you're probably more than qualified, and it's cool in the end.

I actually think they shorted me a capacitor, so I had to go spend an extra buck, and my eyes are getting to the point where it's easier to measure the resistors than read the color codes, but the end result seems to be pretty solid.

Also, it's kind of cool to have your little girl asking you, "Daddy, can we work on the pedal tonight?"
 
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My experience soldering comes from EE labs in college. I wouldn't call myself good at it. But if you can follow instructions and be patient, it's relatively easy. Since you've obviously replaced your pickups, it's simple enough to do.

Can I say it's worth saving ten bucks over a Soul Food? No, I can't, because I've never played through a Soul Food. But if building a pedal is something you'd like to do, I would say you're probably more than qualified, and it's cool in the end.

I actually think they shorted me a capacitor, so I had to go spend an extra buck, and my eyes are getting to the point where it's easier to measure the resistors than read the color codes, but the end result seems to be pretty solid.

Also, it's kind of cool to have your little girl asking you, "Daddy, can we work on the pedal tonight?"

Amen. Very cool.

Ive thought about building pedals, but I have enough trouble with pickups. Meager soldering skills. Little patience.
 
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Hope it was a great experience!

Enjoy the pedal and the time with your daughter. :)
 
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I've built a few BYOC pedals, like an Overdrive 2, 5 knob compressor, and Tremolo. Some of those parts are tiny! Building pedals is fun if you have the time (to take your time) and an uninterrupted work space.
 
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I envy the patience required, I also doubt my ability to solder small things. Guitar wiring is as far as I go and that is often a nightmare enough. I do not think I would ever have the confidence to make my own pedal, somehow I cannot convince myself it would work and if it did that it was working optimally. I dearly love messing with pedals but I am happy to let someone else do the bench work. Inexpensive is also not my goal agenda. I often wonder if builders make frankenstein personal things or if that is perhaps how they come up with production model versions. Bless all the designers and builders for bringing me such wonderful sonic bliss for a few bucks, it is appreciated greatly.
 
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cool thanks for sharing. i'll check em out. i'm kinda bored. i made a byoc fixed wah pedal, it worked for a bit then konked out
 
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With all due respect, I think you're missing the point.

No, I'm not. There was a member who seemed interested (JeffB I think) but concerned about their ability to build it. I could have quoted the post I guess, but I thought that providing the info about the pre-built version may have been helpful to him, or anyone interested in an inexpensive Klone.
 
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"It's a wise man who knows his limitations", I am not building anything myself. I like doing my own guitar wiring and making cables but that is a far as I go. I cannot imagine the mess I could make out of minute solder connections. Tonelogist was probably talking about me. I get the whole self building thing, it adds a connection to something that you do not get otherwise. I also worry a little about the subconscious notion that it would have to sound amazing as a result. I do not think I could ever get past the psyche out that maybe something I wired up could have been a little better and it might sound even better.
I used to make my own guitars out of upgrade parts, after I got a very cool Les Paul I stopped doing that because that build was the deal for me.
May the gods smile on all the hand made pedal builders, each deserve a tip of the hat and a appreciative hug from me.
If you have that ability then it is a gift, go for it.
 
Re: About time I broke out of the Tubescreamer world...

No, I'm not. There was a member who seemed interested (JeffB I think) but concerned about their ability to build it. I could have quoted the post I guess, but I thought that providing the info about the pre-built version may have been helpful to him, or anyone interested in an inexpensive Klone.

It's about the journey, not the destination. And who's along for the ride. I had basically given up on my BYOC Flanger build because I just couldn't figure out where the problem was, and I still considered it a bit of a success because I learned a lot along the way, and I taught my daughter quite a bit too. Even though at the time it was a $120 doorstop, it still wasn't a failure.
 
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Experience is never failure. Better to have tried and missed rather than never having tried. I know from my previous adventures in guitar wiring having converted to a more high temp gun I cannot deal with a pencil and those tiny solder points with my need for magnifying the area makes for designing an "operating" table before even starting much less I just know the thing is not going to work and if it does I could never overcome the notion that maybe something is not quite right and it would sound better. But for those who can venture into that realm, full speed ahead. You learn a lot about circuits doing that even doing guitar wiring you understand all the options and issues of older vintage and modern wiring. It's all cool.
 
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It's about the journey, not the destination. And who's along for the ride. I had basically given up on my BYOC Flanger build because I just couldn't figure out where the problem was, and I still considered it a bit of a success because I learned a lot along the way, and I taught my daughter quite a bit too. Even though at the time it was a $120 doorstop, it still wasn't a failure.

Totally understood your point. Still, not everyone wants to take the journey. It's part of the reason why tons of pedal makers are in business selling pedals at 200 bucks a pop. Because I mention the kit that you built being available for another 10 bucks, fully built, doesn't mean I'm an idiot who missed your point. Just trying to provide info for those who don't want to take your journey and would rather just get to the destination ... for less than 200 bucks.

Nice job on getting it built and working.
 
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Just a tiny bump to say this has already become an always-on pedal for me. I love it.

Now if the stupid knobs would hurry up and get here...
 
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In the first post, I promised pics, and they come with a bit of a story on their own. I wanted knobs that really fit a Centaur-style pedal. For those of you who don't know about the internals of the Centaur, the gain pot is double-ganged, meaning it affects two different amplifiers inside the circuit with any turn. It also means it's the most expensive part inside the pedal. Instead of being a knurled shaft pot like you see on a typical volume or tone knob. But the dual-gang pot is a flatted-shaft pot, which means the same knob needs some help to fit on the shaft.

I tried to figure out what to do to fit the knob, and I decided I'd cut off the bottom of a toothpick to fill out the rest of the circle. Well, one wasn't enough. There was enough space left that the pot started rotating after the knob had started rotating about fifteen degrees or so. Completely unacceptable. So I went with a second, trying to fit it in the remainder of the space, and when I pushed down on the knob, I pushed the shaft of the pot out of its housing inside the pedal. Dammit. So I had to unscrew the knobs I had just put on, pull the entire circuit out, reassemble the pot, which required needle-nosed pliers, a screwdriver, and a lot of patience, then put everything back together. This time, I put the last knob on first, with about a toothpick and a half. Anyways, I finally got it back together.

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...And working.

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Just a last shot of the family, then I'll probably let this thread fade away.

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