Acoustic Amps
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SlyFoxx
Glossless
Re: Acoustic Amps
Don't know. In my experience you need "Hi-Fi" type response for most "plug-n-play" acoustics. Since you (the generic you) already have a PA and monitors I've never had a need for a seperate unit. I've always found an EV-SX300 and plenty of clean power to work great. The acoustic amps I've tried all seemed to be mini PA systems with a few extra bells and whistles that I've never found to be necessary. For the record I use a Taylor 310-CE that is about 7 years old.
Don't know. In my experience you need "Hi-Fi" type response for most "plug-n-play" acoustics. Since you (the generic you) already have a PA and monitors I've never had a need for a seperate unit. I've always found an EV-SX300 and plenty of clean power to work great. The acoustic amps I've tried all seemed to be mini PA systems with a few extra bells and whistles that I've never found to be necessary. For the record I use a Taylor 310-CE that is about 7 years old.
cellomangler
New member
Re: Acoustic Amps
That's very subjective.
For me -light weight, tight and low bass response, smooth highs without being too crispy. Even though I have a Marshall acoustic amp and have tried some others, frankly, I've gotten my best acoustic amplification out of using 2 smaller amps. I go from my acoustic guitar into a Boss LS-2 Line Selector (though you could just use a Y type cable splitter, though with signal loss) -one output of the LS-2 feeds an acoustic processor such as by Zoom, Yamaha, or Aphex and then goes into a small acoustic amp such as the latest mini Behringer AT108 or my Marshall. The other output feeds a bass processor (optional) such as the Aphex or Tech21 and then a bass amp such as the Behringer BT108 or a compact Ashdown. Now put any effects on the acoustic amp side, such as reverb, delay, or chorusing (and you might take out some of the bass with EQ as well). On the bass side, don't use any processing except EG, sub generation or compression -but no reverb, delay, chorus, etc. What you get is a totally controllable sound with clear, articulate bass, and mids and highs that are not ruined by forcing the bass and it's overtones through the same speaker cone. This is the way you make a great -particularly for solo acoustic or acoustic band- acoustic guitar amplification system. IMHO, of course. I get many complements on my sound since using a dual system. And you can put one together, including outboard processors that your can use for multiple purposes, for between $300 and $500 clams.
That's very subjective.
For me -light weight, tight and low bass response, smooth highs without being too crispy. Even though I have a Marshall acoustic amp and have tried some others, frankly, I've gotten my best acoustic amplification out of using 2 smaller amps. I go from my acoustic guitar into a Boss LS-2 Line Selector (though you could just use a Y type cable splitter, though with signal loss) -one output of the LS-2 feeds an acoustic processor such as by Zoom, Yamaha, or Aphex and then goes into a small acoustic amp such as the latest mini Behringer AT108 or my Marshall. The other output feeds a bass processor (optional) such as the Aphex or Tech21 and then a bass amp such as the Behringer BT108 or a compact Ashdown. Now put any effects on the acoustic amp side, such as reverb, delay, or chorusing (and you might take out some of the bass with EQ as well). On the bass side, don't use any processing except EG, sub generation or compression -but no reverb, delay, chorus, etc. What you get is a totally controllable sound with clear, articulate bass, and mids and highs that are not ruined by forcing the bass and it's overtones through the same speaker cone. This is the way you make a great -particularly for solo acoustic or acoustic band- acoustic guitar amplification system. IMHO, of course. I get many complements on my sound since using a dual system. And you can put one together, including outboard processors that your can use for multiple purposes, for between $300 and $500 clams.
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: Acoustic Amps
I played one of the older SWRs a while back & it seemed like a fairly nice, lightweight, portable package....nice tight sound, but I hear the newer models aren't as good ????
My brother plays a regular acoustic gig & he goes direct to a PA; never came upon an amp he liked :dunno:
I played one of the older SWRs a while back & it seemed like a fairly nice, lightweight, portable package....nice tight sound, but I hear the newer models aren't as good ????
My brother plays a regular acoustic gig & he goes direct to a PA; never came upon an amp he liked :dunno:
joelap
Red&Goldologist
Re: Acoustic Amps
to me, acoustic-electrics sound overly bright. i can always tell the difference between an acoustic electric and a guy who is micing out his acoustic since I for some reason don't like the tone of acoustics getting plugged into an amp like a guitar. In an acoustic amp, I'd want transparency. and the ability to plug a microphone into it.
to me, acoustic-electrics sound overly bright. i can always tell the difference between an acoustic electric and a guy who is micing out his acoustic since I for some reason don't like the tone of acoustics getting plugged into an amp like a guitar. In an acoustic amp, I'd want transparency. and the ability to plug a microphone into it.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: Acoustic Amps
AER I like those small ones, it is very even sounding and has a very nice footprint.
Never liked the rest much.
Best sound is still a big fat ole mic in front of the soundhole.
AER I like those small ones, it is very even sounding and has a very nice footprint.
Never liked the rest much.
Best sound is still a big fat ole mic in front of the soundhole.
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: Acoustic Amps
a guy came to audition for us with one of those little single tube preamps .. plugged his acoustic into it and it straight to our board ... the sound was really spectacular, took him 30 seconds to set up and weighed less than a pound .... that's a home run to me
good luck
t4d
a guy came to audition for us with one of those little single tube preamps .. plugged his acoustic into it and it straight to our board ... the sound was really spectacular, took him 30 seconds to set up and weighed less than a pound .... that's a home run to me
good luck
t4d
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
Re: Acoustic Amps
I like both my SWR units. I have a California blonde and a Strawberry Blonde. Both are older (pre-Fender ownership). I can't stand most acoustic amps thogh, as most are way too bright. It seems odd to me that manufacturers voice their products this way, as acoustics really aren't that bright.
I like both my SWR units. I have a California blonde and a Strawberry Blonde. Both are older (pre-Fender ownership). I can't stand most acoustic amps thogh, as most are way too bright. It seems odd to me that manufacturers voice their products this way, as acoustics really aren't that bright.
Jeff_H
Dean Hardtail Fanologist
Re: Acoustic Amps
Scott, if memory serves the Expression System is designed to go straight into the PA...eliminating the need for pre-amps or amps. I love the expression system, although I haven't had the chance to plug it directly into a PA. I can tell you that even through the clean channel of my Marshall it sounded like a$$.
I'd probably pick up one of those little Crate acoustic amps that I see at GC all the time. Under $400 and pretty good little sound reproducers.
Scott, if memory serves the Expression System is designed to go straight into the PA...eliminating the need for pre-amps or amps. I love the expression system, although I haven't had the chance to plug it directly into a PA. I can tell you that even through the clean channel of my Marshall it sounded like a$$.
I'd probably pick up one of those little Crate acoustic amps that I see at GC all the time. Under $400 and pretty good little sound reproducers.
Re: Acoustic Amps
a good pickup (i use a magmic)
a good preamp (mines a lr baggs para acoustic di)
into a pa system or something else with relatively flat clean response. ive played very few acoustic amps that have blown me away.
your sound source (pup) and preamp have alot to do with how you will sound in the end, but if you plug into a marshall it isnt gonna sound good
a good pickup (i use a magmic)
a good preamp (mines a lr baggs para acoustic di)
into a pa system or something else with relatively flat clean response. ive played very few acoustic amps that have blown me away.
your sound source (pup) and preamp have alot to do with how you will sound in the end, but if you plug into a marshall it isnt gonna sound good
Re: Acoustic Amps
I had been using the Fender Acoustasonic DSP with my electric acoustic for a while and I didn't like it that much. I then tried using the Presonus Tubepre going straight into the PA and the sound was still harsh and unnatural. I also tried using a microphone to the pre-amp and then the PA. This was probably the best sound I could get until I bought the Mama Bear. Although I'm still learning how to use it to the full extend, it is giving me amazing results. It is like having a whole lot of different acoustic guitars at your finger tips with a slight turn of the dials and they all sound fantastic. I can hook it up directly to the PA or to my Roland KC-550 keyboard amp and they both sound good. I have not yet tried recording it direct yet, but I predict the result will just be the same.
I had been using the Fender Acoustasonic DSP with my electric acoustic for a while and I didn't like it that much. I then tried using the Presonus Tubepre going straight into the PA and the sound was still harsh and unnatural. I also tried using a microphone to the pre-amp and then the PA. This was probably the best sound I could get until I bought the Mama Bear. Although I'm still learning how to use it to the full extend, it is giving me amazing results. It is like having a whole lot of different acoustic guitars at your finger tips with a slight turn of the dials and they all sound fantastic. I can hook it up directly to the PA or to my Roland KC-550 keyboard amp and they both sound good. I have not yet tried recording it direct yet, but I predict the result will just be the same.
