Advice about a fuzz pedal?
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scottish
WeirdScienceologist
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
MJM london fuzz was the only fuzz i ever used. Its a classic FF clone based on the 60s/70s fuzz. I would recommend it to any1, it cleans up really nice with the volume control on your guitar.
If you check out the gear page, you can pick up a good FF clone for around 100-125. I dont know if the vintage fuzz sound is what you are going for though
MJM london fuzz was the only fuzz i ever used. Its a classic FF clone based on the 60s/70s fuzz. I would recommend it to any1, it cleans up really nice with the volume control on your guitar.
If you check out the gear page, you can pick up a good FF clone for around 100-125. I dont know if the vintage fuzz sound is what you are going for though
Ringlund
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
I want a pretty subtle fuzz that doesnt slay the natural tone of an amp and, because it most prabably wont be that heavily used, with a fair price tag.
What about the ibanez fz7 or some sort muff?
note: I play metal but want to use the fuzz on some passages, on the clean channel or distorted channel which ever works best for such a pedal (dont have any experiance) but it will have to be or get pretty "clean" and subtle. That might a funny way to put it hope it is understandable.
I want a pretty subtle fuzz that doesnt slay the natural tone of an amp and, because it most prabably wont be that heavily used, with a fair price tag.
What about the ibanez fz7 or some sort muff?
note: I play metal but want to use the fuzz on some passages, on the clean channel or distorted channel which ever works best for such a pedal (dont have any experiance) but it will have to be or get pretty "clean" and subtle. That might a funny way to put it hope it is understandable.
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Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
I like the non-russian made Big Muff Pi's man. It's the sweetest fuzz I've used yet, and I doubt I'll ever find a reason to try other fuzz. I've been using my friend's lately, but I think I'm gonna have to buy myself a big muff.
I like the non-russian made Big Muff Pi's man. It's the sweetest fuzz I've used yet, and I doubt I'll ever find a reason to try other fuzz. I've been using my friend's lately, but I think I'm gonna have to buy myself a big muff.
Ringlund
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
That sounds really interesting, I am an electrician so I know my way around a solder iron.
That sounds really interesting, I am an electrician so I know my way around a solder iron.
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scottish
WeirdScienceologist
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com...n=com_virtuemart&Itemid=45&vmcchk=1&Itemid=45
this is the link to the big muff kit im talking about. i built one for my buddy at his request....and its friggin awesome. soon as i get a little doh ill be building one for myself
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com...n=com_virtuemart&Itemid=45&vmcchk=1&Itemid=45
this is the link to the big muff kit im talking about. i built one for my buddy at his request....and its friggin awesome. soon as i get a little doh ill be building one for myself
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Lewguitar
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
Yeah...I'll second the vote for a Big Muff. It's a classic and inexpensive. It's way to fuzzy for me, but it's still a great pedal for those wanting tons of toneful fuzz!
My favorite fuzz of all time would be the Fuzzface clone made by Fulltone: the 69. But they're going for over $200 now on Ebay. I have two. The only fuzz I think highly enough of that I bought two just in case something happened to my first one.
Lew
Yeah...I'll second the vote for a Big Muff. It's a classic and inexpensive. It's way to fuzzy for me, but it's still a great pedal for those wanting tons of toneful fuzz!
My favorite fuzz of all time would be the Fuzzface clone made by Fulltone: the 69. But they're going for over $200 now on Ebay. I have two. The only fuzz I think highly enough of that I bought two just in case something happened to my first one.
Lew
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
Crucible makes a very nice fuzzface clone with a bit of a modern edge to it for a mere $125 which is one of the best deals of a handmade pedal going.
MJM also has some very nice fuzz pedals for a reasonable price. Skreddy is highy regarded as well though around $200 and with a 2 month wait so that probably rules them out.
The Big Muffs themselves are still always a viable option though I sometimes find it a bit muddy/bassy
Another really good option and probably my favorite for your applicaiton would be the Keeley Fuzz Head though.
Its sort of a fuzz/od pedal. Its certainly fuzzy but its not over the top. Retains great clarity. It really nails the tones of using the fuzz as a boost like Jimi used to.
Hendrix's tone you have to remember was largely due to a cranked Marshall. He certainly used fuzz as well but it was added on top of an already cranked amp.
Its rather funny that the Big Muff literature says its the same sound created by Hendrix because its not at all.
The Muff is thick and creamy, more Gilmour or good for the so called "Stoner Rock" stuff, FuzzHead though really is like adding an OD but with a bit more spit and spat and grind.
Bottom line is theres a ton of choices as all sound a bit different. Its not like an OD or distortion where you might be able to have just one and get a bunch of tones.
Even among a given brand, such as the Crucible fuzz theres the Ge and Si version which both sound quite different
Crucible makes a very nice fuzzface clone with a bit of a modern edge to it for a mere $125 which is one of the best deals of a handmade pedal going.
MJM also has some very nice fuzz pedals for a reasonable price. Skreddy is highy regarded as well though around $200 and with a 2 month wait so that probably rules them out.
The Big Muffs themselves are still always a viable option though I sometimes find it a bit muddy/bassy
Another really good option and probably my favorite for your applicaiton would be the Keeley Fuzz Head though.
Its sort of a fuzz/od pedal. Its certainly fuzzy but its not over the top. Retains great clarity. It really nails the tones of using the fuzz as a boost like Jimi used to.
Hendrix's tone you have to remember was largely due to a cranked Marshall. He certainly used fuzz as well but it was added on top of an already cranked amp.
Its rather funny that the Big Muff literature says its the same sound created by Hendrix because its not at all.
The Muff is thick and creamy, more Gilmour or good for the so called "Stoner Rock" stuff, FuzzHead though really is like adding an OD but with a bit more spit and spat and grind.
Bottom line is theres a ton of choices as all sound a bit different. Its not like an OD or distortion where you might be able to have just one and get a bunch of tones.
Even among a given brand, such as the Crucible fuzz theres the Ge and Si version which both sound quite different
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
First...there is NO fuzz that will not mess with your tone...fuzz pedals are NOT low gain booster units or transparent OD bozxes, they are very bass and treble heavy, massive clipped sounding units with loads of gain and ...well...FUZZ!
Now, a low buck fuzz pedal to get your feet wet with that sounds great is the Seymour Duncan Tweak Tuzz, the Big Muff is another great option...
First...there is NO fuzz that will not mess with your tone...fuzz pedals are NOT low gain booster units or transparent OD bozxes, they are very bass and treble heavy, massive clipped sounding units with loads of gain and ...well...FUZZ!
Now, a low buck fuzz pedal to get your feet wet with that sounds great is the Seymour Duncan Tweak Tuzz, the Big Muff is another great option...
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
The FuzzHead is very transparent. Additionally with its internal tone and fuzz/gain knobs in addition to the supplier capaciators they include to really tailor the sound to be as smooth or heavy as you want.
Even running balls out its still pretty restrained keep in mind. Its definatly not going to get the tone of a Big Muff with all the knobs pegged.
However thats something a good thing in alot of cases because a Muff can get so flabby and muddy that you can't hear a thing, especially live.
Other problem with some of the fuzzface type pedals is that if you crank them as well you get this very harsh spit and splatter type of tone with tones of noise. My Crucible has a bit more gain than the typical FF and I usually only use it at about 75% if that. Otherwise the tone just gets a bit too "ugly"
I say "ugly" with the " " because it is subjective after all. Theres a world of differnece in the fuzztones of Paige, Hendrix etc and the total sonic meltdown that some noise rockers consider good "music"
Heck check out some of the E13 stuff, sonically sounds like instead of a 9v someone hooking up a car battery and fried the thing but again, its subjective lol
I'd seriously say check out the Fuzz Head as your first choice though. Its awesome wtih a cranked amp to just get that over the top push with aspects of fuzz coming through, totally Hendrixy with a vintage amp/lower gain and works equally well with modern high gain.
I think its closest to the sound your after
The FuzzHead is very transparent. Additionally with its internal tone and fuzz/gain knobs in addition to the supplier capaciators they include to really tailor the sound to be as smooth or heavy as you want.
Even running balls out its still pretty restrained keep in mind. Its definatly not going to get the tone of a Big Muff with all the knobs pegged.
However thats something a good thing in alot of cases because a Muff can get so flabby and muddy that you can't hear a thing, especially live.
Other problem with some of the fuzzface type pedals is that if you crank them as well you get this very harsh spit and splatter type of tone with tones of noise. My Crucible has a bit more gain than the typical FF and I usually only use it at about 75% if that. Otherwise the tone just gets a bit too "ugly"
I say "ugly" with the " " because it is subjective after all. Theres a world of differnece in the fuzztones of Paige, Hendrix etc and the total sonic meltdown that some noise rockers consider good "music"
Heck check out some of the E13 stuff, sonically sounds like instead of a 9v someone hooking up a car battery and fried the thing but again, its subjective lol
I'd seriously say check out the Fuzz Head as your first choice though. Its awesome wtih a cranked amp to just get that over the top push with aspects of fuzz coming through, totally Hendrixy with a vintage amp/lower gain and works equally well with modern high gain.
I think its closest to the sound your after
Ringlund
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
Okay do the big muff clean up well when you have it at low gain levels? Or do I have to back the volume on the guitar off?
It is atleast doable to clean it up right?
edit: is it possible to use it as a small boost for a nasty solo tone?
Okay do the big muff clean up well when you have it at low gain levels? Or do I have to back the volume on the guitar off?
It is atleast doable to clean it up right?
edit: is it possible to use it as a small boost for a nasty solo tone?
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
Fuzz Pedals in general don;t clean up well and are not really great for a small solo boost....they are very extreme perdals to begin with. You're best bet is to just get something and try it out. Based on what you're asking for the Duncan Tweak Fuzz woudl be a great place to start plus they don't cost an arm and a leg. I see them used all the time for $65 and less!
Fuzz Pedals in general don;t clean up well and are not really great for a small solo boost....they are very extreme perdals to begin with. You're best bet is to just get something and try it out. Based on what you're asking for the Duncan Tweak Fuzz woudl be a great place to start plus they don't cost an arm and a leg. I see them used all the time for $65 and less!
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
+1 to all of this.
If you're after a lead boost or something that doesn't goof with your amp's tone, a fuzz is really not where you should be looking.
+1 to all of this.
If you're after a lead boost or something that doesn't goof with your amp's tone, a fuzz is really not where you should be looking.
scottish
WeirdScienceologist
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
the MJM london fuzz cleans up exceptionally well when you use the volume knob on ur guitar. but yeah, set at low levels trying to use them as a boost....you dont want a fuzz for that
the MJM london fuzz cleans up exceptionally well when you use the volume knob on ur guitar. but yeah, set at low levels trying to use them as a boost....you dont want a fuzz for that
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What on earth are you guys talking about ? A good fuzz pedal cleans up very well, Germainum in particular.
Thats one of the whole reasons to use a fuzz pedal, the dynamics you can achieve with just your volume knob.
No offense but do you guys actually own any fuzz pedals that are making these comments ? Who can't get a Fuzz Face or clone to clean up ?
Again to the OP, if you want a small boost for a "nasty solo tone" again, buy the FuzzHead by Keeley. Its EXACTLY whats its designed for:
"The Fuzz Head is designed to work like Fuzz Face pedals many players use as a lead boost, but a Fuzz Face can be muddy, lack note definition, be too bassy and lack sustain. The Keeley design is transparent, has better frequency response, and gives you that cutting edge for lead breaks."
What on earth are you guys talking about ? A good fuzz pedal cleans up very well, Germainum in particular.
Thats one of the whole reasons to use a fuzz pedal, the dynamics you can achieve with just your volume knob.
No offense but do you guys actually own any fuzz pedals that are making these comments ? Who can't get a Fuzz Face or clone to clean up ?
Again to the OP, if you want a small boost for a "nasty solo tone" again, buy the FuzzHead by Keeley. Its EXACTLY whats its designed for:
"The Fuzz Head is designed to work like Fuzz Face pedals many players use as a lead boost, but a Fuzz Face can be muddy, lack note definition, be too bassy and lack sustain. The Keeley design is transparent, has better frequency response, and gives you that cutting edge for lead breaks."
Ringlund
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
I have never tried a fuzz pedal, I would want one to experiance with and I if possible one that could get me a couple of different tones.
I do like some fuzzy leads, I do like that 70s stonerrock tone, I do like some low gain hairy cleans (I use "crunch" for that now, but there is room for improvment). If one fuzz could give me some of these tones to play with then what the hell.
The london fuzz is a bit out of my price range, I am still interested in the big muff and the fuzztweak.
Does the fuzztweak do stoner rock any good?
I have never tried a fuzz pedal, I would want one to experiance with and I if possible one that could get me a couple of different tones.
I do like some fuzzy leads, I do like that 70s stonerrock tone, I do like some low gain hairy cleans (I use "crunch" for that now, but there is room for improvment). If one fuzz could give me some of these tones to play with then what the hell.
The london fuzz is a bit out of my price range, I am still interested in the big muff and the fuzztweak.
Does the fuzztweak do stoner rock any good?
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
Did you already say what kind of guitar & amp you're using? My Tweak Fuzz sounds totally different with a Strat or something with 'buckers.
Did you already say what kind of guitar & amp you're using? My Tweak Fuzz sounds totally different with a Strat or something with 'buckers.
PFDarkside
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Re: Advice about a fuzz pedal?
For a beginner fuzz, I recommend the Tweak Fuzz as well, it's very polite, cleans up when you back off on the volume, the 6-pos switch can go from bassy to bright and everywhere in between, and used they are pretty cheap. I also recommend the Euthymia line, for Fuzz Face clones and the BuildYourOwnClone.com fuzz face. Getting in to the cream of the crop of Fuzz Faces, I think Analogman's Sunface, FoxRox and Fulltone are supreme fuzzes, but unlike the Tweak Fuzz, you MUST know how to use them. Fuzz isn't like a distortion that you can just plug and play.
For Big Muffs, the two reissues are decent, but I really like Skreddy (expensive) and Euthymia's ICBM. Add to that the BuildYouOwnClone.com one if you can solder. A Big Muff really does not clean up well at all, you can minimize the gain and get a smoother tone, but it's definately not like an OD that you back off and it cleans up. (A Fuzz Face is 2 gain stages, a Muff is 4) The ICBM is one of the brighter Muffs I own but I still like it. I also have a Swollen Pickle clone that is MASSIVE sounding.
Check out Youtube clips of Fuzz Faces and Muffs though, they are two completely different beasts.
For a beginner fuzz, I recommend the Tweak Fuzz as well, it's very polite, cleans up when you back off on the volume, the 6-pos switch can go from bassy to bright and everywhere in between, and used they are pretty cheap. I also recommend the Euthymia line, for Fuzz Face clones and the BuildYourOwnClone.com fuzz face. Getting in to the cream of the crop of Fuzz Faces, I think Analogman's Sunface, FoxRox and Fulltone are supreme fuzzes, but unlike the Tweak Fuzz, you MUST know how to use them. Fuzz isn't like a distortion that you can just plug and play.
For Big Muffs, the two reissues are decent, but I really like Skreddy (expensive) and Euthymia's ICBM. Add to that the BuildYouOwnClone.com one if you can solder. A Big Muff really does not clean up well at all, you can minimize the gain and get a smoother tone, but it's definately not like an OD that you back off and it cleans up. (A Fuzz Face is 2 gain stages, a Muff is 4) The ICBM is one of the brighter Muffs I own but I still like it. I also have a Swollen Pickle clone that is MASSIVE sounding.
Check out Youtube clips of Fuzz Faces and Muffs though, they are two completely different beasts.