Advice for a bedroom closed back metal amp or direct recording device?

PLVTONIVS FILIVS

PLVTONIVS FILIVS

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Well, as my damn direct recordin Demonizer has blown out again, I am looking for one substitute. I like thrashy crunchy passive humbucker metal sounds, the demonizer sounded pretty good but it is a pain. I do not know very much about small amps. I cannot have a big one now. I have found I only like big full closed ones. Do you recommend a little tube amp, or is it a waste? Digital? Another direct recording device (other than POD or V-AMP)?

By the way I can pick for free a korean cheap 15W one and close it, and buying some cheap distortion pedal for a while until I stop traveling around and find another band. I tried it years ago with a V-AMP plugged and it was fun, we were surprised. It cut through the mix!!!
 
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check out the Engl Tube Preamp E530. I have tried the E530 cab simulator outputs into my DAW and it sounds ok. However, the E530 really shine when is connected to a tube power amp.
 
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The Vox tonelabs are pretty decent. Some of the effects are whack but the amp and speaker cap simulators are usable. A Tonelab with a bunch of higher quality pedals in front can go a long way.
 
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I think you may be looking for the Blackstar HT-5. Five watt head with line out for recording, perfect for crunchy passive humbucker metal sounds. At least take a look.
 
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Vox Tonelab ST.
 
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What are you recording into? Are you interested in something for just recording? Do you need something for live applications as well? I'll probably get hasseled for this but i couldn't live without my POD Live XT. It's not the most authentic tone but i couldn't do any of my writing without it. I use it with cubase and Drumm Core 3 and i've got tones of versatility. Look for them used. Super cheap and very easy to use
 
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POD X3 Live is my choice for recording and gigging. It is very flexible for recording home and it sounds fantastic. It also provides mic and bass amp models also which is a plus.
 
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I was gonna recommend a Vox Tonelab or Valvetronix amp. Best bang for the buck, IMO.
 
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Thanks everybody. This forum rock.:friday:

eschoendorff said:
I was gonna recommend a Vox Tonelab or Valvetronix amp. Best bang for the buck, IMO.
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Finally I chose an incredibly cheap Valvetronix 212 50W amp, too big for my "homeless" situation but I couldnt resist!

I cant wait to receive it!
 
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misterwhizzy said:
I think you may be looking for the Blackstar HT-5. Five watt head with line out for recording, perfect for crunchy passive humbucker metal sounds. At least take a look.
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add me onto that suggestion.
 
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misterwhizzy said:
I think you may be looking for the Blackstar HT-5. Five watt head with line out for recording, perfect for crunchy passive humbucker metal sounds. At least take a look.
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Yes it seems nice. I have bid for one of these also, though I do not think I am going to win.
 
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PLVTONIVS FILIVS said:
Finally I chose an incredibly cheap Valvetronix 212 50W amp, too big for my "homeless" situation but I couldnt resist!
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Valvetronix for metal? :eyecrazy: I would like to hear some demos please.
 
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PLVTONIVS FILIVS said:
Thanks everybody. This forum rock.:friday:

Finally I chose an incredibly cheap Valvetronix 212 50W amp, too big for my "homeless" situation but I couldnt resist!

I cant wait to receive it!
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I thought 2x12 valvetronixes are 100W (VT100)? Did you get it used or new? And if you don't mind me asking for how much?

How do they sound for metal? Sound clips are highly appreciated.
 
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AD series had a 50 watt 2x12, VT series only has a 100 watt 2x12

My AD15VT rules at metal --- it has JCM 800, JCM 900, JCM 2000 (?), Mesa Rectifier, Soldano SLO, and Dumble Overdrive Special models, and they are all really good.
 
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The Tonelab ST has tons of metal in it. Here is a list of what's inside that I found on a Vox site.

For those folk interested in the Tonelab ST amp and pedal models, the following might be of interest: -

SILK STD : GREEN
CLEAN Dumble Clean
CALI CLEAN Fender Brown Pro
US BLUES Fender Tweed Bassman
US 2x12 Blackface Twin
VOX AC15 1960's AC15 (12AX7 Top Boost)
VOX AC30 AC30TB
UK ROCK UK Blues JTM45
UK METAL JCM2000
US HIGH GAIN Bogner Ecstasy
US METAL Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
BOUTIQUE METAL Dumble Overdrive Special

SPL : ORANGE
Roland JC
57Twin
Bruno Cowtipper
Matchless DC30H
1950's AC15 (EF86)
AC30HH
JCM800
Marshall JVM
Soldano Slo
VHT Pittbull
Diezel VH4

CST : RED
3Band EQ(Pure Clean)
Dumble Modded Fender Showman
Trainwreck Express
Original Crunch
Original BritishRockAMP
AC30BM
Marshall 50W Plexi
2555 Slash
Original HI_Gain
Peavey 6505
Original BOUTIQUE Metal

PEDAL MODELS
COMP MXR RED COMPRESSOR
ACOUSTIC ORIGINAL
VOX WAH VOX WAH
U-VIBE UniVox Uni-Vibe
OCTAVE ORIGINAL
TREBLE BOOST VOX TREBLE BOOSTER
TUBE OD Ibanez Tube Screamer
BOUTIQUE KLON CENTAUR KENTAUROS
ORANGE DIST BOSS DS-1
METAL DIST BOSS HM-1
FUZZ DALAS Fuzz Face

MOD/DELAY
CLASSIC CHORUS MXR CHORUS
MULTI TAP CHORUS ORIGINAL
CLASSIC FLANGER MXR FLANGER
PHASER MXR Phase90
TEXTREM Tremoro on Fender Combo Amp
ROTARY Rotary Speaker
PITCH SHIFTER ORIGINAL
FILTRON Mu-TRON Filter
ECHO PLUS Echo Plex
DELAY ORIGINAL 70's Analog BBD Like Delay
CHORUS+DELAY ORIGINAL COMBI FX
 
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I love my Vox Tonelab LE. I use it for daily practice and recording. There will be some who think that it lacks the balls to do "metal", but it's plenty metal enough for me.
 
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I play mostly Black Metal such as Dark Funeral, Immortal and older Satyricon and I currently run a Jackson Soloist with Duncan Blackouts Metal in Bridge and Livewire Classic II in the neck through my Line 6 POD XT Live.

It does OK, however I have not yet mastered the full creation of models on it (no idea what I'm doing and haven't fully read the manual yet). The stock amps like the Triple Rec model are "meh" at best, but the JCM800 one is good.

I currently have a Randall V2 head and am currently cab hunting for a Randall R412XLT, but am having no luck. Hopefully something comes my way soon.
 
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Red_Label said:
I love my Vox Tonelab LE. I use it for daily practice and recording. There will be some who think that it lacks the balls to do "metal", but it's plenty metal enough for me.
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Meh. Metal is more in how you play, rather than what you play.
 
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crguti said:
Valvetronix for metal? :eyecrazy: I would like to hear some demos please.
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Well. OK I'll post some. There are some youtube ones.

cakire82 said:
I thought 2x12 valvetronixes are 100W (VT100)? Did you get it used or new? And if you don't mind me asking for how much?

How do they sound for metal? Sound clips are highly appreciated.
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It is a VOX AD50VT-212 Valvetronix, new 273 euro, includes shipping to Spain from England.

eschoendorff said:
Meh. Metal is more in how you play, rather than what you play.
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:headbang:
 
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