Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

jonathane40

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Hi, I’m looking for a replacement for the neck pickup of a Kurt Cobain mustang and was wondering how are these two pickups different in sound. Which would be brighter, darker, etc? Both use Alnico 5, Antiquity Mustang (6.6 DCR) and Surfer (6.5 DCR), and Mustang has flat poleoieces. How would they behave differently in the neck of a 24 inch scale Mustang?

Thanks!
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

Honestly, I think they'd be super close. *Maybe* there would be a little more bass in the Mustang pickup, but not night and day.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

Honestly, I think they'd be super close. *Maybe* there would be a little more bass in the Mustang pickup, but not night and day.

Thanks Mincer! The only difference I see is the little bar graph in the website. According to the B M T bar graph the Surfer has more treble. I might end up going with the Surfer then because Mustangs are meatier siento the shorter scale.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

How are things going? I had a Cobain set up once in a pos Squier Jaguar in which I put a Custom 5 in the bridge and a Surfer in the neck and it sounded bad ass. But yes I did have to drop the Custom 5 to get it to balance. So since the JB is hotter than the Custom 5 I would recommend the Surfer bridge. It will probably sound better on its own anyways.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

Thanks Mincer! The only difference I see is the little bar graph in the website. According to the B M T bar graph the Surfer has more treble. I might end up going with the Surfer then because Mustangs are meatier siento the shorter scale.

I think if I had both pickups and installed one, and played it for awhile, and then installed the other, I might not be able to tell the difference after a few minutes.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

The mustang is warm and lush while the surfer is glassy. The mustang is really unique.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

Thanks for all the answers! I might just end up going with the Antiquity II Mustang Neck. I thought of getting the Antiquity Surfer bridge for the neck of the mustang but I’m afraid that it will be too hot and dark! I want bright and clear in the neck and that’s what interests me of the Surfer Neck vs. the Antiquity II Mustang neck but I figure that since I already have a Strat I might just want to go with the traditional mustang neck sound! I won’t have time to get this going until the summer so I’ll report back. I might also get a mastery bridge and vibrato for the mustang.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

FYI, the Antiquity Surfer bridge in the neck won't be dark. It still sounds like a 1960s pickup, which is really bright by today's standards.
 
Re: Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

6.6K seems high to me for a Mustang pickup. And 6.5K for a Strat is likely to be an early '60's Strat tone (when Strats were their darkest – and many will say "best – sounding).

Mustang pickups should be well under 8,000 turns (closer to 7,500 than to 8,000, actually), and Strat pickups of the era when Mustangs were produced, about the same. With 42 gauge wire, that should be under 6K, although there was variation. The Strat pickups that are most likely to have ended up landing at 6.5K or so are early '60s Strat pickups.

Basically, the difference between the Duncan Mustang and Duncan Strat pickups you mentioned is probably more about stagger than anything else. But a "real" '60s Mustang pickup would usually sound more clear than either (though it might actually be higher output, as the magnets will not have been degaussed, as they are on the Antiquity pickups).

FWIW, I have a pair of Duo-Sonic II pickups from '65, IIRC. I consider them irreplaceable pickups. I have them in the bridge and middle positions of my '94 MIJ '50s reissue Strat. The cool thing about owning an original Duo-Sonic pickup set is that one of them is RW/RP, because the Duo-Sonic's pickups were wired in series (while the Mustang's were wired in parallel). I have a switch in my Strat that puts the two Duo-Sonic pickups in series, as they were originally intended to be wired. They sound great, singly or in series. Given that these aren't considered "desirable" pickups, so they aren't all that expensive, you might consider shopping for the "real deal" which will still have close to full gauss magnets, as opposed to a degaussed Duncan.
 
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Antiquity Surfer va Antiquity Mustang (neck)

Thanks for all your answers!

I sent this same question to Seymour Duncan and this is the response I received from Davey:

“The Surfer model will be brighter, the Mustang pickup will probably be a better match with the JB tonally and will have a fuller more versatile tone.”

For now I’m leaning more towards the Antiquity Mustang for the neck. I won’t be able to do this until the summer so I’ll come back and update here once I have installed it and played the guitar for a good time!
 
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