Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
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Chistopher
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
I've done it before, it worked out pretty well with 250k pots all around. But a word of warning, the Floyd might thin out the tone a wee bit. But another suggestion I could offer would be to get 3 Cool Rails (or possibly a JB Jr. or Hot Rail in the bridge) and attach a series/parallel switch to all of them. This would allow you to get the fat (relatively speaking) series tone of the Cool Rails plus you could also get pretty close to the Vintage Rails tone by wiring them in parallel. The Vintage Rails sound very similar to single coils as a point of interest.
By drop D and drop C# do you mean D standard and C# Standard? Because those are two very different things.
I've done it before, it worked out pretty well with 250k pots all around. But a word of warning, the Floyd might thin out the tone a wee bit. But another suggestion I could offer would be to get 3 Cool Rails (or possibly a JB Jr. or Hot Rail in the bridge) and attach a series/parallel switch to all of them. This would allow you to get the fat (relatively speaking) series tone of the Cool Rails plus you could also get pretty close to the Vintage Rails tone by wiring them in parallel. The Vintage Rails sound very similar to single coils as a point of interest.
By drop D and drop C# do you mean D standard and C# Standard? Because those are two very different things.
Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
No I meand DADGBE and C#G#C#F#A#D#.
Yes I'm interested in going Hot Rails plus 2 Vintage Rails with a parallel option for the Hot Rails. I play metal too and I'd love for the guitar to do both. I'm guessing the Hot Rails in parallel is as close to the Vintage Rails tone wise as you can get from a hot bridge humbucker. Closer than a JB Jr. in parallel.
Edit: The setup will be very similar to this: https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/product-news/seymour-duncan-v-blog
Just not sure if I'm going with a different drive pedal (I have the Killing Floor in mind).
No I meand DADGBE and C#G#C#F#A#D#.
Yes I'm interested in going Hot Rails plus 2 Vintage Rails with a parallel option for the Hot Rails. I play metal too and I'd love for the guitar to do both. I'm guessing the Hot Rails in parallel is as close to the Vintage Rails tone wise as you can get from a hot bridge humbucker. Closer than a JB Jr. in parallel.
Edit: The setup will be very similar to this: https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/product-news/seymour-duncan-v-blog
Just not sure if I'm going with a different drive pedal (I have the Killing Floor in mind).
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gregory
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gregory
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
Once you start messing around with series/parallel over a pickup dedicated to a specific tone you inevitably enter the land of compromises.
The Chopper and a pair of FT1s could work really well.
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The Super Distortion S will work well in the bridge if you want its series mode as the core tone for that position. Running it in parallel mode would be a compromise to approach a brighter, more Stratty tone from the bridge spot.
...and a that point I would definitely widen the net to find the pickup that fits you best in that spot:
Hot Rails, JB Jr., BC-2, Tone Zone S, etc.
Once you start messing around with series/parallel over a pickup dedicated to a specific tone you inevitably enter the land of compromises.
The Chopper and a pair of FT1s could work really well.
EDIT:
The Super Distortion S will work well in the bridge if you want its series mode as the core tone for that position. Running it in parallel mode would be a compromise to approach a brighter, more Stratty tone from the bridge spot.
...and a that point I would definitely widen the net to find the pickup that fits you best in that spot:
Hot Rails, JB Jr., BC-2, Tone Zone S, etc.
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gregory
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
Check demos.
The SD-S and Hot Rails are similar in terms of output but are voiced differently.
Fast Track 1s and Vintage Rails are quite different from one another in terms of tone and output. I would definitely choose FT1s over the VRs. The Cruiser Neck is probably most similar to a Vintage Rails, and I would choose The Cruiser.
If pronounced Strat quack is your thing I'd go with a single coil in the middle (true or stacked).
Check demos.
The SD-S and Hot Rails are similar in terms of output but are voiced differently.
Fast Track 1s and Vintage Rails are quite different from one another in terms of tone and output. I would definitely choose FT1s over the VRs. The Cruiser Neck is probably most similar to a Vintage Rails, and I would choose The Cruiser.
If pronounced Strat quack is your thing I'd go with a single coil in the middle (true or stacked).
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PicoRiveraTele
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
I have a guitar with three Vintage Rails, it sounds very weak. The reason is obvious to me in hindsight, the single rails don't bring enough magnetic strength to the guitar strings. At least a DiMarzio Cruiser retains the two rails. The reason I went with them, and stick with them, is the Rails don't have the base flange like most pickups, which was a requirement for this guitar, and they're the lowest output, flangeless pickup I could find. I will probably replace them with Gold Lace Sensors, though I think the Vintage Rails do look really cool.
I have a guitar with three Vintage Rails, it sounds very weak. The reason is obvious to me in hindsight, the single rails don't bring enough magnetic strength to the guitar strings. At least a DiMarzio Cruiser retains the two rails. The reason I went with them, and stick with them, is the Rails don't have the base flange like most pickups, which was a requirement for this guitar, and they're the lowest output, flangeless pickup I could find. I will probably replace them with Gold Lace Sensors, though I think the Vintage Rails do look really cool.
Chistopher
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
I'd recommend looking into the Hot Gold set. They are actually more vintage and open sounding than the standard Golds. Plus you get the option of having an overwound bridge if you so choose.
I'd recommend looking into the Hot Gold set. They are actually more vintage and open sounding than the standard Golds. Plus you get the option of having an overwound bridge if you so choose.
PicoRiveraTele
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
That's a great point. I don't know what the parallel inductance is, but it sounds so weak I can only presume it's pretty low. The sad thing is that wired in series, they don't sound way too fat to be considered "vintage".
That's a great point. I don't know what the parallel inductance is, but it sounds so weak I can only presume it's pretty low. The sad thing is that wired in series, they don't sound way too fat to be considered "vintage".
gregory
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Chistopher
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
Recently, in the past year.
Recently, in the past year.
gregory
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
It was only a few months ago you said you had never tried Lace Sensors and had bought a Light Blue/Silver/Emerald set per my rec. and waited some time to try them out because some active circuitry hadn't yet arrived.
How dare you hide this up your sleeve and not keep me apprised, lol!
It was only a few months ago you said you had never tried Lace Sensors and had bought a Light Blue/Silver/Emerald set per my rec. and waited some time to try them out because some active circuitry hadn't yet arrived.
How dare you hide this up your sleeve and not keep me apprised, lol!
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Chistopher
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Re: Anyone ever done 3 Vintage Rails?
My bad. That set was so nice that I went in a Lace Sensor craze for most of November. I could start a thread to review them if you'd like.
My bad. That set was so nice that I went in a Lace Sensor craze for most of November. I could start a thread to review them if you'd like.
