Anyone Know if This Can be Done?

Agileguy_101

Agileguy_101

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I'm overhauling my pedalboard, and I want to have an interface/patch bay thing so that I can just plug into that instead of my pedals. Also, it will hypothetically let me play in a few different situations. I play into a single channel, no-fx-loop-havin' bad mutha of a 68 Bassman. But I also want to utilize the stereo functions on my Strymon Timeline and incoming Eventide H9. I would also eventually like to get a modern channel switching fx loop having amp, and I would like to be able to use this board with such an amp. I want to be able to play through any of these rigs without touching the cables between the pedals themselves. Hypothetically, I would just plug into the interface for any of the aforementioned three rigs and be ready to rock. I made a diagram for the more visually inclined:

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I'm talking to a few different custom builders from The Gear Page that may be able to build me something. But can anyone think of something that does what I need? The most important part would be the ability to either run in stereo or sum both stereo outputs from my fx pedals to a mono source for running a single amp. I can't think of any devices that do this, but that's why I'm asking, so...
 
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The strymon & H9 offer stereo input & output? So whichever of the two is the last stereo pedal gets to be used with the fx loops of each amp. You will need a Y type junction switch(whatever its called) to split the signal into two so that each amp gets one signal at the amp's input.
 
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Hank- said:
The strymon & H9 offer stereo input & output? So whichever of the two is the last stereo pedal gets to be used with the fx loops of each amp. You will need a Y type junction switch(whatever its called) to split the signal into two so that each amp gets one signal at the amp's input.
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That doesn't quite work. Besides the fact that only one of the amps I'd be running in stereo has an fx loop, if I used your method there would be nothing in the front input.
 
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Looked into any of the One Control looper/switcher devices? They're all named after lizards and there's a bunch of 'em with tons of i/o/thrus. Either that, or look at racking everything and get some MIDI going.

http://www.one-control.com/
 
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Agileguy_101 said:
That doesn't quite work. Besides the fact that only one of the amps I'd be running in stereo has an fx loop, if I used your method there would be nothing in the front input.
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Palmer do an octobus that will take care of your pedals and several amp A B Y type pedal with ground lift and volume balance options, voodoo labs have pedal and amp switching pedals or you could use their GCX midi gear and rack your pedals to keep all the wiring out of the way
 
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jon the art guy said:
Looked into any of the One Control looper/switcher devices? They're all named after lizards and there's a bunch of 'em with tons of i/o/thrus. Either that, or look at racking everything and get some MIDI going.

http://www.one-control.com/
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Good suggestion. They've got some really cool stuff, but I don't see anything that would do what I want without being about $500+ of overkill.

mcbprs said:
Palmer do an octobus that will take care of your pedals and several amp A B Y type pedal with ground lift and volume balance options, voodoo labs have pedal and amp switching pedals or you could use their GCX midi gear and rack your pedals to keep all the wiring out of the way
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Cool suggestions but again those options are way more than I need, both feature and price wise. I think someone should be able to build an interface to do what I want done for less than $200.
 
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is that three rigs you want to switch from? it almost looks like a tree consisting of 6 rigs total???
 
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I'm not sure how you got six rigs. I want to be able to run three different amp rigs depending on the situation - the whole board into a single amp with no fx loop, the whole board into a single amp with the mod/delay in the amp's fx loop, and the whole board into to different amps in stereo. I don't want to be able to switch between them like one would switch channels on an amp, but rather have the capability to run any of those rigs without rewiring the board, just plugging into the patch bay/interface differently.
 
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well, your pic has a tree, labeled #1 #2 #3

your #1 for instance is linked to two stacks. but each of these stacks has pictures of two heads and two speakers!

far out d00d!
 
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Agileguy_101 said:
I'm not sure how you got six rigs. I want to be able to run three different amp rigs depending on the situation - the whole board into a single amp with no fx loop, the whole board into a single amp with the mod/delay in the amp's fx loop, and the whole board into to different amps in stereo. I don't want to be able to switch between them like one would switch channels on an amp, but rather have the capability to run any of those rigs without rewiring the board, just plugging into the patch bay/interface differently.
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A. For the bolded part I'd do it like this:
Pedals>Split box> 1st outlet goes to the Strymon L mono In>Strymon mono out to input of the amp with no fx loop.
>2nd outlet goes to amp input of the amp with fx loop. The FX Send of this amp goes to strymon R In>Strymon R out to Amp FX Return.

B. If you end up running two amps with no fx loop, 2nd outlet on splitter goes unused, instead strymon splits the signal into two going into the front of the amp inputs of two different amps, may need to unplug the cable from the strymon R input as well. If don't wanna unplug manually then a A/B switch to bring the cable going into the R input in & out can be added to the board.

C. If you end up running two amps with fx loops then the splitter sends the signals to the inputs of the two amps while the strymon handles the fx loops of both amps in stereo. Another A/B box between the Strymon L input & splitter 1st outlet would allow to choose between the aforementioned A. type rig setup above.

So a splitter & two A/B boxes may do what you need. You may actually need a A/B/C boxes for the inclusion of C. type setup. My head is going :argh: lol
 
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^ Man what a pain it would be to find a faulty connector in that last one! lolz
 
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I went through a similar search a couple of years ago with my rack gear. I've got:
-ADA MP-1 running into a Digitech TSR-12 for EQ and FX
-Digitech GSP1101
-Digitech GSP-21Pro
-Line6 AM-4
-Bass POD
and the best I could do was to run the guitar into a Morley ABY (set to Y) and into any two units. If I wanted to switch, I had to rewire. I looked at the Radial stuff, but could never find *exactly* what I wanted. One pedal had most of the features I was looking for, but lacked the one deal-breaking element. The pedal that had that element lacked the other features.

Finally a friend pointed me to the Sound Sculpture Switchblade stuff, and even sold me one of his spare(!) Switchblade 8s. This thing is incredible. Being a rackmount, it's not as "gig-baggable" as a pedal, but the routing capabilities are astounding. 8 inputs, 8 outputs. Assign any Input to any Output, including 1-in, 8-out (guitar goes in, then goes to 8 different targets). It does MORE than I wanted, which was quite a relief after digging through so much stuff that barely did half of what I wanted.
 
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I actually was contacted by a guy on TGP (Goodwood Audio) who apparently builds this kind of stuff. He's able to build me exactly what I want. Schweet
 
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