Anything Like a VH4?
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Gearjoneser
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Re: Anything Like a VH4?
Check out the ENGL Powerball halfstack in the Trader Section. Those are laid out pretty similar, and are built for 4 channels from clean to highgain.
Check out the ENGL Powerball halfstack in the Trader Section. Those are laid out pretty similar, and are built for 4 channels from clean to highgain.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Anything Like a VH4?
I just spent the past month in rehearsals for the George Lynch gig playing nothing but a VH-4, and I own an Engl ... and the VH-4 is nothing short of amazing! It quickly grew on me to the point where I would love to purchase this amp one day. It would be a great addition to the family!
The footswitch alone is amazing, and it even has a MUTE button on it!! 
The Engl is more comparable to a VHT, imo, than the Diesel.
I just spent the past month in rehearsals for the George Lynch gig playing nothing but a VH-4, and I own an Engl ... and the VH-4 is nothing short of amazing! It quickly grew on me to the point where I would love to purchase this amp one day. It would be a great addition to the family!
The footswitch alone is amazing, and it even has a MUTE button on it!! The Engl is more comparable to a VHT, imo, than the Diesel.
NecroPolo
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Re: Anything Like a VH4?
In my opinion, the thing that sounds like a Diezel is an another Diezel. There is a smaller Diezel amp, called "Herbert" named after Peter Diezel's son, it is cheaper then the VH4.
The Engl is also frickin' awesome amp, but sonically it is different from a VH4S. The day when I had the opportunity to play a VH4S for 90 seconds is the day when I realised that there is no reason for buying an another amp in the class of my present amps just for a 2-3% tonal improvement when there is an amp that sonically eats alive anything that I can pull out. So, I save the big buck and don't worry about getting an amp until the time I can afford the Big Shot - and get an improvement of + 100%...
I have seen it inside. Looks like the Death Star: hosts of things but everything is in strict order. It is said, in an (otherwise superb sounding) JCM800 amp there is about $200 worth of mid-grade components (resistors, trannies, caps, covering, handles, etc.) built in. An (otherwise superb sounding) Orange head has the same worth of mid-grade components built in. A (otherwise superb sounding) Recto has $500 of mid-grade components. All +++ what you pay for is the circuitry, design, manufacturing and the name.
The DIezel has "just" $1300 (!) worth of HI-GRADE (think of Soldano) components. You know what? Even the F'N grounding of real FX connectors are conected with not F'N copper but silver wire because it has something to do with sonical output... Besides, there is some magical in the output transformer of Diezels that no one else has. It is the best built, best designed and best sounding amp around. A sonical Ferrari. With a supersonic price but hey you get what you've paid for.
In my opinion, the thing that sounds like a Diezel is an another Diezel. There is a smaller Diezel amp, called "Herbert" named after Peter Diezel's son, it is cheaper then the VH4.
The Engl is also frickin' awesome amp, but sonically it is different from a VH4S. The day when I had the opportunity to play a VH4S for 90 seconds is the day when I realised that there is no reason for buying an another amp in the class of my present amps just for a 2-3% tonal improvement when there is an amp that sonically eats alive anything that I can pull out. So, I save the big buck and don't worry about getting an amp until the time I can afford the Big Shot - and get an improvement of + 100%...
I have seen it inside. Looks like the Death Star: hosts of things but everything is in strict order. It is said, in an (otherwise superb sounding) JCM800 amp there is about $200 worth of mid-grade components (resistors, trannies, caps, covering, handles, etc.) built in. An (otherwise superb sounding) Orange head has the same worth of mid-grade components built in. A (otherwise superb sounding) Recto has $500 of mid-grade components. All +++ what you pay for is the circuitry, design, manufacturing and the name.
The DIezel has "just" $1300 (!) worth of HI-GRADE (think of Soldano) components. You know what? Even the F'N grounding of real FX connectors are conected with not F'N copper but silver wire because it has something to do with sonical output... Besides, there is some magical in the output transformer of Diezels that no one else has. It is the best built, best designed and best sounding amp around. A sonical Ferrari. With a supersonic price but hey you get what you've paid for.
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Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Anything Like a VH4?
The Bogner 101B and Diezel VH4 are so hard to beat, they may never be topped by anything. They're the most advanced tube amps ever made. I'll never sell my Ecstasy, and if I had the money, I'd grab a VH4 that's on Ebay right now for around $2800. That's the lowest I've ever seen one for, but is still a huge chunk of change.
It's also a 6L6 amp, so it would be different, but equal to the EL-34 Ecstasy.
The Bogner 101B and Diezel VH4 are so hard to beat, they may never be topped by anything. They're the most advanced tube amps ever made. I'll never sell my Ecstasy, and if I had the money, I'd grab a VH4 that's on Ebay right now for around $2800. That's the lowest I've ever seen one for, but is still a huge chunk of change.
It's also a 6L6 amp, so it would be different, but equal to the EL-34 Ecstasy.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Anything Like a VH4?
EDIT: Just realized I hit post 2112! RUSH RULES!! LOL \m/
Hmmm .... I was quoted a price of $3300 for a new VH4; not that much of a savings ... of course, that's BEFORE our outrageous 9% sales tax!Gearjoneser said:
EDIT: Just realized I hit post 2112! RUSH RULES!! LOL \m/
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Anything Like a VH4?
Ultrasound in NYC ... the owner was guessing, tho, so his price may have been off.Monty-Jay said:
Gearjoneser
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Re: Anything Like a VH4?
Most guys that own those heads really baby them, so if you can get the one on Ebay for $2800, you've saved over $800. The only complaint you could ever have about a Diezel or Bogner is that they're made for volume. They both sound really good at low/moderate levels, but they just bloom when turned up.
Most guys that own those heads really baby them, so if you can get the one on Ebay for $2800, you've saved over $800. The only complaint you could ever have about a Diezel or Bogner is that they're made for volume. They both sound really good at low/moderate levels, but they just bloom when turned up.
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TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Anything Like a VH4?
I think that's true with every amp, GJ ... fortunately, I have the freedom to play loud!!Gearjoneser said:
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