backing track help

[jake_xms3_punk]

i've recorded some midi tracks that i want to use live with the drummer hearing the click through headphones and us and the audience hearing the music. i need some advise on how to do this.

im thinkin that i need to pan the music one side and the click the other,then mixed down into audio, the track will be playing from an mp3 player of some sort.

ok so i was thinking the chain would be:- mp3 player > small mixer, mixer left out > headphone amp/headphones for the drummer, mixer right out > stage box

would this work? any help you can give me would be great

 

[tone4days]

Re: backing track help

i think you are close, but dont you want the drummer to hear the music in the headphones too? or just the click?

if drummer needs to hear the music too, you can put the music panned left and the music plus click panned right ... then you can feed left to FOH mono and right to the headphone chain

 

[ginormous]

Re: backing track help

+1 to t4d. If you can give the drummer a monitor mix of click & midi keys, and let everyone else hear just the midi, that would be a solution.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: backing track help

+1 for click plus enough of the backing to make the song structure clear.

Chord changes, bassline and any stop/start sections should suffice. A well-known UK vocalist lays down wordless guide vocals in what he calls Gabrielese. Some form of rough vocal can only help to show how far through the song the playback has reached.

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: backing track help

thanks for your imput guys, ye it does make sense the drummer hearing the music.

 

[Markk]

Re: backing track help

Does your mixer support aux send and returns? (and depends on how many you have)

I usually use a mixer that has 3 aux sends and returns. My solution would be send the click track and music from aux 1 and 2 into a track, and send that track through aux 3 to headphones but not through the main mix, while music/others go through main mix into the PA.

This way he'll hear stereo and the band...assuming everything is mic'ed of course.
But I'm probably over-complicating things

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: backing track help

Does your mixer support aux send and returns? (and depends on how many you have)

I usually use a mixer that has 3 aux sends and returns. My solution would be send the click track and music from aux 1 and 2 into a track, and send that track through aux 3 to headphones but not through the main mix, while music/others go through main mix into the PA.

This way he'll hear stereo and the band...assuming everything is mic'ed of course.
But I'm probably over-complicating things

ye i could do, my mixer has 4 aux sends, that way i wouldn't have to use a headphone amp and i'd have a stereo mix of the track. but i never use my own mixer in gigs, so it would have to depend on how many aux sends the house desk has got, so its not as reliable, plus it is over complicating things lol

 

[Markk]

Re: backing track help

I guess you could also do a bit of reconnaissance before your next gig

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: backing track help

i might just buy a small 2 track mixer, plug the mp3 player in channel 1, then left out into the main desk (leave the right out empty) and then plug headphones into the little desk for the drummer.
that way he would get the full mix of click and music, i wouldn't have to remix the tracks i've done with music left and click right, and i wouldn't have to use a headphone amp