Basswood Guitar Pickups Recommendations

arablue

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Hello, first-time poster, long-time lurker. I bought a basswood strat knockoff with a hardtail bridge and a humbucker/single pickup layout to play Iron Maiden/Megadeth type music.

Id prefer medium output pickups but I'd like input. I was thinking screaming demon, custom, super distortion, or fred in the bridge, with a hot rails, chopper, or fast track in the neck. That said, I have little experience with humbuckers other than the recordings

Are there any tried and true magnet combinations or alnico/ceramic rules for a basswood strat? Ultimately, I'd like a setup that can do a few flavors of rock and metal, and have some mid freq presence, rather than super extreme or scooped sound.

Thanks in advance
 
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What amp?

My first few bridge ideas would be Super D, Norton, Custom.

There are MANY tried and true Mag combos, but no rules. Thats the best part.

If you do go Custom, you can swap out the stock magnet for an Alnico 8 magnet, which I think sounds better than a stock Custom. Which is something I learned on this forum.

But only do it, once you have spent time with the stock PU, otherwise how would you know what you like more or what's "better"

You could also get a JB, cuz I think Megadeth was JB back in the day. But I don't know the specs on his guitar.
 
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What type of tones are you looking for from a pup? Are looking for something thats transparent that doesn't color your sound as much or are you looking for a pickup that gives off a certain color or tone?
 
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listen to your guitar and see what you're missing. Honestly I would go high output because you can always pull up on a push-pull pot to give you the less aggressive sounds. The other guys are right though your amp makes a big difference. Basswood is a very love hate relationship with me , I just put a 1000k potentiometer in a 1980s Hamer guitar with 27 frets and can't wait to take it out.

anyways.. the EQ that each pickup is on a major brand website like on here will tell you how much bass , treble and so forth. But if you haven't used a guitar processor I highly recommend at least trying one out to give you all those extra sounds.
 
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Ive been playing for a while and have a few amps. Right now using a Laney AOR50 but I might switch to a preamp like a jmp1 for a wider variety of tones. The bands listed seem to use super distortions, hot rails, and jb's, but dont use basswood instruments. Ive read here and on other forums that basswood can be finicky with certain pickups, hence the questions.

To clarify, I dont like the Metallica, super chunky/saturated EMG sound. I prefer the upper mids, the cut and clarity of 80's Maiden and early 90's Megadeth. Just enough distortion for sustain and to give palm mutes some heft
 
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I have a lil demon in a basswood strat and a full size version in my Ibannez RG. I love the way they work with basswood. I don't recall the output of the hot rail neck pickup but it may be a little too hot to match up well. They both take gain well and remain articulate, even when using higher levels of distortion.
 
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Custom in the bridge for sure. I have that in a Basswood Ibanez RG and it absolutely kills. Plenty of heavy, but not over the top output. Palm mutes hit hard with the custom, and it works beautifully for rhythm and lead work.
 
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If you don't like scooped, stay away from Jazz and Full Shred with basswood. The Full Shred isn't scooped so much as the lows are tight and the mids scooped, i.e. the treble is emphasized.

So yeah ....
 
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The hardtail will probably make the DC work well in this case. The DD should always be tried for music like that.

The neck is more difficult. Long scale and hardtail, that can come out boomy. If you have a single coil slot anyway the hot rails neck sounds like a good thing. It isn't that hot, it's about PAF class. But it has the ceramic magnet that compresses and that might help reign in the boom.
 
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A lot depends on the particular guitar, but if it's got the kinda thuddy thing going on that a lot of basswood superstrats have you need to try something with a decent amount of tight lows and bright highs to get the best out of it. midrange is more of a how you feel about it thing.

Stock custom is a good choice, tight bottom, bright top. Evo's, 500T, Ceramic Nailbomb, these all work well based on that.

DD, Painkiller, Dirty Fingers all work well too, if you want that midrange. Some people don't, and blame it on the wood, but they usually probably wouldn't like those pickups in anything else either, so...
 
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I thought jb's were supposed to be bright and occasionally honky, not scooped?

I heard some clips of the jb and preferred it to the distortion. Don't know about the custom yet, but I heard the jb is more articulate while the super d is thicker. Is that fair? Would they both pair well with a hot rails?
 
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The general consensus is that basswood is very balanced, or neutral as some say. I personally think that's mostly true except it has a slight low-mid concentration and combs away some of the upper frequencies. I'm talking quality basswood here. Cheap basswood is too inconsistent and often has a grainy, sterile tone to my ears. The general consensus is also that Dimarzio pickups are generally best in basswood. I tend to agree except that I think Dimarzios are equally as good in alder and mahogany.

The best Seymour Duncans for basswood tend to be the brighter ones like the JB, Jazz, Full Shred, Custom Custom (not necessarily bright), and Custom 5.

The first thing you have to do is get a good idea of what frequencies your guitar seems to resonate well. Play the strings without an amp, knock on the wood perhaps, play with the amp, and compare it to other guitars. Once you have an idea of how your wood sounds, then you simply find a pickup that suits your tonal palate and compliments the inherent sound of your guitar. If your guitar is bassy, you might want a pickup that tightens the bass a bit or it could be too boomy. If your guitar has a low midrange accent, then you might consider a pickup like a Steve's Special which has more concentration in the lower, upper mid and treble frequencies. If your guitar is bright or thin, consider a pickup like an Air Zone or Custom Custom.

There are some things to consider so at this point, any suggestion is not going to do you much good until you have a good idea of what your guitar naturally sounds like. If you use lots of distortion, then you probably don't need high output pickups and you probably don't need to worry about tone as much. In that case, you will just need a medium output pickup that's tight and articulate. If you're looking to improve your tone, then there are three important things to consider first. The first thing to consider is whether your technique is producing optimum tone or not. If you don't have enough technique to bring out the tones then you're going to sound the same with any setup. Then you have to consider whether your current gear is going to help you achieve better tone. If you're using solid state amps or modelers, or high-gain metal amps, then chances are your pickups aren't going to be of much consequence (in my opinion).

Probably the most versatile Dimarzio is the Norton which is very similar to a JB. The Tone Zone is surprisingly similar to a JB, and a poll I posted on this forum a while back testifies to that fact. I think a Seymour Duncan JB, Custom Custom, or Custom is probably your safest best for bridge position. If you choose Dimarzio, the Norton or Tone Zone or Super Distortion are the easiest choices.

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Jb. Hands down. Pulls off Iron Maiden with flying colors, it's what Megadeth (Dave AND Marty) used for Rust in Peace, works wonders in basswood and is the exact tone you're describing. That with a hot or cool rails in the neck with a super switch and you're golden.
 
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Basswood can be tricky, even considering EVH's affinity for it. It can be a little tonally flat at times. JB has worked best for me. That midrange hump susses it out well.


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Thanks for the replies. I love geeking out about pickups and the feedback is great. I guess I have a few choices and I'll let you know what I pick and how it goes
 
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As has been said before, the Norton and full shred are good choices for basswood.

I have hard tail alder strats, a basswood hard tail rg, and a mahogany rg, and have swapped various pickups between. What I have noticed with basswood is a more neutral sound across the spectrum. But what seems to make or break a pickup choice is the somewhat softer attack it has.
A pickup like the full shred, Norton, or screamin demon would have the necessary tightness and articulation to help offset this tendency. Also I found that bassier pickups tend to get muddy under gain quicker in basswood.

the full shred isn't scooped or lacking in mids in any way. In my basswood rg, it seems to have the lowest lows and the highest highs pulled back to eliminate the mud and ice pick highs. That said, it is very flat and neutral sounding. It borders on dull sounding when not using overdrive or distortion, but this trait allows it to excel under heavy gain.
It is like the Norton in some aspects.

The Norton is a modern sounding hot paf type of pickup. It'll to evh to thrash all day. It is a less bassy tone zone, essentially. I ended up using dimarzio's excellent exchange policy to arrive at it after the tone zone and steve's special didn't cut it. That was '99 or so.


I'd not use or recommend the jb because the looser low end is not the greatest for basswood.
My rg came with dimarzio/ibz pickups (supposedly most similar to a superdisortion/super combo) and I found the SD a bit loose/muddy for my tastes.
To much output too. I couldn't really clean it up as well as the Norton or full shred.

I will say that I liked the jb Jr when I had it in my old strat. It was really tight sounding but not like a full sized jb.
 
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The ones I've liked so far on my basswood RG are the Screaming Demon, Pearly gates, and Custom5. I also tried a Distortion, it was ok but it seem to emphasized a "honk" in the tone.
 
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