Best Noise Suppressor?

[ElUnoAstuto]

After changing amps like partners at square dancing, I've finally settled down with a decent high gain solid state amp, and am looking for that special something to bring the noise down. I'm just running a guitar to a Boss NS2 into an old model Peavey Special 212, and it's decent, but still feeds back quite a bit at practice. Who's used what and how well did it work?

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Im not sure if this helps, but a lot of folks ive seen using "Rocktron Hush the pedal" units with great results, though noise gates are not designed to stop feedback, their meant for stopping noise.

Maybe check your setup in general

1. pickups?
2. make sure your scratch plate or pickups are not vibrating (when at high volumes) because this can cause a whole lot of trouble, i had this problem a while back, it was sorted by drilling another hole and screwing the
scratchplate in even more securely.
3. check you arent using "too much" gain, at high levels you can usually find that you dont need as much as you think you do.
4. learn to use the volume pot on the guitar effectively (if you already havent).

Hope this helps


Ryan

 

[ElUnoAstuto]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Yeah, I'm not in the "modern" mindset of metal, I never scoop my mids, when I play out the gain never goes past 7-8, and the volume usually stays around 8. It's just when you stop playing, you get that squeeling screeching god awful noise! I want to keep it quiet while I'm not playing, without using a mute type pedal.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Yeah, I'm not in the "modern" mindset of metal, I never scoop my mids, when I play out the gain never goes past 7-8, and the volume usually stays around 8. It's just when you stop playing, you get that squeeling screeching god awful noise! I want to keep it quiet while I'm not playing, without using a mute type pedal.

Well for instance i play metal and i set my gain at 5 :chairfall. also you said you use 8 on master volume?, i dont know about your amp but on most thats pretty insanely loud, could be your position in relation to the guitar and amp, slap on all that gain and volume and theres your feedback.

If you are using a trem guitar then put some toilet tissue in the trem cavity between the springs, this will limit them from vibrating like hell and making the feedback worse when you stop playing.

Also, try putting pressure on certain points of the scratchplate to see if theres any vibration problems causing it, and again just roll back your volume a little.

I use no noisegate and i play pretty loud, all i have to do is roll my volume pot from 10 down to about 7-8 to stop going into feedback, but i dont really have feedback problems anyway, its just a precaution.


Ryan.

 

[WhoFan]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

I wish Line 6 would make the noise reduction unit like they have in the POD's in a single unit... that is one of the few noise reductions i like...

 

[ElUnoAstuto]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Yeah BigBazz, the guitar I've been using has a floyd, so I'm gonna' try something to keep those springs from vibrating...

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

If you're setting the NS-2 to decay at nothing and threshhold at 8-10, like you should be setting it to kill feedback, then you shouldn't be having a problem, unless you have microphonic pickups/tubes.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

I've finally settled down with a decent high gain solid state amp

Read the thread first mr dead skin slayer, no bad tubes in a solid state.

Also its not just tubes or pickups that cause feedback.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Just for the record, HUSH the pedal is one of the worst noise suppressors on the market. The NS-2 is a very solid product that should be doing its job well. I use an ISP Decimator right now and it does its job at cutting down the very little noise that was present to begin with, but I don't recall it being "that much" better than the NS-2.

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Read the thread first mr dead skin slayer, no bad tubes in a solid state.

Also its not just tubes or pickups that cause feedback.

Yeah, but I've never encountered a situation where with properly working gear, an NS-2 didn't cut out feedback when you stopped playing and muted the strings.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Just for the record, HUSH the pedal is one of the worst noise suppressors on the market. The NS-2 is a very solid product that should be doing its job well. I use an ISP Decimator right now and it does its job at cutting down the very little noise that was present to begin with, but I don't recall it being "that much" better than the NS-2.

The Hush Super-C rack noise supressor is the bad one, the Hush Pedal is really good from what ive heard, i have no first hand experience with either though.

I know arch enemy use the rocktron hush pedal, they have no noise issues, seen them live a few times.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Yeah, but I've never encountered a situation where with properly working gear, an NS-2 didn't cut out feedback when you stopped playing and muted the strings.

okey dokey :amish:

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

The Hush Super-C rack noise supressor is the bad one, the Hush Pedal is really good from what ive heard, i have no first hand experience with either though.

I know arch enemy use the rocktron hush pedal, they have no noise issues, seen them live a few times.

No, I'm sorry, but you're completely wrong and I don't want somebody to purchase that pedal thinking it's good (my buddy had it and it was terrible). HUSH the pedal is absolutely useless unless you like having it completely rob your natural guitar tone.

I used to have a rackmount Super-C and it worked pretty well (it definitely wasn't garbage like you're thinking), but not as good as the modern day suppressors like the Boss NS-2 and ISP Decimator. I noticed that sustain could be cut off with the Super-C if it wasn't dialed in very carefully and that's even true with the modern stuff, but the NS-2 and the Decimator both do a good job with much less tweaking than the older stuff.

 

[ElUnoAstuto]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

Man, I guess I just had a brain fart at practice the other day.:smack: With my old rig I always had the NS2 with Threshold= noon, Decay=all the way down, and I never thougth to mess with it with this new rig.:chairfall I'm gonna' take it out to the practice space tomorrow and try tweaking the Threshold a little higher. Just out of curiousity, does anybody actually use the Decay knob? Also, how are you guys running your noise gates? I've seen several star rigs where some guys run it in the amp's effects loop, others put it last in the chain.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

It all depends what kind of an amp you've got. If you're having an issue with really heavy preamp gain, you'll probably want to put it in the FX Loop.

I haven't had the NS-2 in a while, so I can't remember how I tweaked mine, but I don't remember it taking too much to get it dialed in right I think the NS-2 will do the job nicely after you mess with it, it's definitely a lot better than any of the older HUSH or MXR units.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

No, I'm sorry, but you're completely wrong and I don't want somebody to purchase that pedal thinking it's good (my buddy had it and it was terrible). HUSH the pedal is absolutely useless unless you like having it completely rob your natural guitar tone.

I used to have a rackmount Super-C and it worked pretty well (it definitely wasn't garbage like you're thinking), but not as good as the modern day suppressors like the Boss NS-2 and ISP Decimator. I noticed that sustain could be cut off with the Super-C if it wasn't dialed in very carefully and that's even true with the modern stuff, but the NS-2 and the Decimator both do a good job with much less tweaking than the older stuff.

Ok il take your word for it:beerchug:

 

[Jackson Distortion]

Re: Best Noise Suppressor?

If your experiments with your NS-2 don't pan out, go to the store and see if they carry an MXR Smart Gate--that thing is good. But, like any other noise gate, it will process your tone. I'm not saying this is bad 'cause if you want your original notes to not get cut off in high-gain situations, this pedal WILL work.

I've got solid state and in-line or looped, the pedal sounded the same to me.