Mikelamury
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Just wondering what pot value you guys would recommend for the antiquity jazz hb
Best pot value for antiquity jazz hb
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beaubrummels
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I use 500k with mine, both neck and bridge.
Mikelamury
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Ya I was thinking 500k also, I'm going to use A500k pots for the tone. What do you guys recommend for the volumes-A500k or B500k? It's going in my gibson les paul special,? Also I'm planning on using .022uf tone caps, what do you guys think of this value? And should I use a treble bleed for this set?
beaubrummels
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I find it counterintuitive, but linear taper for volume and audio taper for tone provides a full even range for both controls. Some reverse that if they do volume swells with their finger on the volume. You shouldn't need treble bleeds with Jazz pickups. If there's an issue with darkness, just use 50's wiring.
Mikelamury
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Thanks, the treble bleed couldn't hurt could it? Im thinking about putting one in on the JB and want even response from both pickups when rolling back volume. It won't make it any brighter or anything will it?
Thus is what I'm looking at do far:
Antiquity JB/jazz combo
B500k volume x2 A500k tone x2 .022uf tone cap x2
.015uf 150v treble bleed x2
What do you think?
beaubrummels
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Unless your guitar is particularly dark or the controls/pots/wiring you are using are lower value, I don't think it would need or be beneficial to have a treble bleed and it could make it not work as you expect. The treble bleed is going to work whether you need it or not, and if you don't need it, it's going to make the volume not work right. When I used treble bleeds, they had to be fine tuned/experimented with to work with the particular guitar and pickups. Wrong values and it does undesirable behavior; like I had one where as I turned the volume down, the bass rolled off first, then the pickup turned down finally in the last few numbers of the dial. All these things exist to solve particular problems. If you haven't confirmed you actually have that problem, I wouldn't add unnecessary stuff in the circuit that isn't needed.
dystrust
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+1
I've yet to encounter a treble bleed that I didn't find overly bright and harsh. I like 50s wiring with 500K pots and .015/.022 caps for humbuckers.
alex1fly
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This is wisdom right here.
Change as little as possible at a time. Make decisions based on what you hear, not what you read or see online. Blah blah blah.
I can't stand them. They sound like something is wrong to me. I like 500k pots with modern wiring, though.
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I don't think treble bleeds are that controversial. All I do is use a 100pf range cap and it works perfectly. The tone stays about the same and darkens slightly as you turn down the volume. Instead of turning down the volume and then all of a sudden ur tone is swamped. 
Mikelamury
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Yes I meant .0015uf 150v for the treble bleed. So ur saying that the treble bleed can make it not sound right?
It depends on your rig and hearing. For those with a fairly bright rig and/or good hearing, the basic treble bleed makes the tone unbearably bright and harsh as you turn down. You can actually see it on a scope - the amount of treble present as you turn down can actually exceed the treble present at full volume.....not to mention it being way out of balance with the rest of the frequencies in the tone at any point on the dial once you're away from 10.
So if you don't like this sort of imbalance, either you go 50's wiring (which has a naturally more balanced tone but at the cost of some tone-knob volume interaction), or you have to complicate the treble bleed with series and parallel resistors in addition to the cap (so as not to alter the pot taper). And of course all of the component values interact so its not like you can just take the basic cap you use with the basic treble bleed and assume it will work when the other 2 components are added.
Some love the endless fiddling about with these sort of things. But others like to have a guitar that will work for all amp setups you might play, and will be fine if you then swap pickups too.
So if you don't like this sort of imbalance, either you go 50's wiring (which has a naturally more balanced tone but at the cost of some tone-knob volume interaction), or you have to complicate the treble bleed with series and parallel resistors in addition to the cap (so as not to alter the pot taper). And of course all of the component values interact so its not like you can just take the basic cap you use with the basic treble bleed and assume it will work when the other 2 components are added.
Some love the endless fiddling about with these sort of things. But others like to have a guitar that will work for all amp setups you might play, and will be fine if you then swap pickups too.
Found the treble bleed useful in 2 of my guitars. On both I've wired the cap and the resistor in series, not parallel so the volume taper is pretty much unaffected, plus I'm using a dedicate DPDT switch to disable it if need be. Parallel wiring made my volume unusable. Off the top of my head both caps are 1nF and the resistors are 100K and 150Kohm espectively. Can buy a 220K trimmer and play with the resistance until you find the right value for your guitar. To my ears this mod is very effective for cleans, when rolling off the volume the treble is still there. For crunch and high gain it sounds rather odd, bit fizzy and have to flick the switch to off position.
Worth experimenting with parallel/series and different capacitor and resistor values.
Worth experimenting with parallel/series and different capacitor and resistor values.
