Boomy Neck Pickup

MB89

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Hi
Does any off you have some tips to tveak a boomy neck pickup,
i have a sg with black winter set, the bridge i have dialed in to my liking, but the neck i cant get right, it is the 5 and 6 string that is boomy

any help will be great :-)
 
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Back it away from the strings a hair or two. Start there, obviously back it away on the side of the 5 and 6 string, where it is booming. Start there and report back, a boomy neck is not as common in SG guitars that I've played when compared to Les Pauls, so tweaking the pickup height should be enough.
 
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My cure for boomy neck pickups is to get rid of the alnico 5 or ceramic magnet and replace it with A2 or A3.

But I use paf style neck humbuckers. Not super overwound Death Metal pickups like the Black Winter.
 
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The simple "demud mod" often helps this situation. It's fairly cheap & easy, and equally as easy to reverse.

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All of the above options work well

In order, I'd recommend them as follows:

1) lower the pickup. Quickest / easiest to do, reversible, etc. etc.

if that doesn't work...

2) magnet swap. Cheap, reversible, lets you hone your tone. CON: you may not be comfortable doing these kinds of mods (though they are easy to learn!), and this will void your warranty on your pickup

if that doesn't work...

3) demud mod. Also cheap and reversible. Also less time consuming than a magnet swap and doesn't void your warranty, I've done this before and liked it, and I think I've even posted about it on the forum. However, the reason why I would say that a magnet swap is better is that your tone will probably be better with a magnet swap than with a cap (in my opinion... as all things tone related are opinions....). A cap will cut certain frequencies out entirely; a magnet swap will still allow a full frequency response, but will just alter the emphasis.

That's my 2 cents.
 
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Thanks everyone, i will give the backing off another shot, if it ends in magnet swap, is there a way that shall be used when it is 3 magnets vs 1 magnet
the warranty is off anyway, they are over 12 months old :-)
 
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I always used to run my pickups very low (far from the strings), with a heavy string gauge- that sounded the best to me :)

-Erl
 
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Hi again i backed the neck all the way down and adjusted up from there, ended at 4,2 mm at the 6 string and 3,5 at the first string, but there is still some bomyness on 5 and 6 string, do you think the
.01uf mod will thake away the rest
 
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. . . do you think the .01uf mod will thake away the rest

It's unique to each situation. You have to try it, to see if you like it. But, it is simple to do. And fairly inexpensive.
 
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Ok thanks, i am not using the pickups for split/coil tap, is it just to solder the cap between the north and South wire
 
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Have you tried turning the screws on the 5-6 strings? Way lower than the other 4 strings. That solved the boominess on my Les Paul with Burstbucker '61 pickups. Lowering the bass side of the pickup was not working for me (I lost definition).
 
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A suggestion if you are feeling really adventurous, move the pickup 3/4" towards the middle. Okay, maybe not so practical, but sometimes I think that's where neck pickups really belong.
 
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SG's already have their neck pickups as if they were 24 fretters and they should not be boomy by nature, especially with Black Winters which are the polar opposite of boomy. At this point it's difficult to say whether getting a satisfactory result would take a setup tweak, extended customizing or even flipping the guitar.
 
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Ah yes so they do, guess I was thinking of the LP Specials that have the pickup right up against the neck.
 
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First, adjust your pole pieces so you have even string to string volume. Unadjusted ('flat-poled") humbuckers have overly loud low E and A, an overly weak D, and an overly loud G. Balancing the string volume in chords can improve muddiness and boominess.

Next, adjust pickup height until the low midrange sounds good to you. If you need more treble, raise the pole pieces equally across the board. If you have too much low end, take care of it at the amp by running your bass knob lower. Each adjustment will affect other things on the pickup's tone as well, so you will have to go through this process a few times to dial it in precisely.
 
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Thanks i always set the pole'S to match the fretboard radius, and tweeks from there to get even String volume
The problem is i can't tweek the boominess away with pole and height adjustment
 
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I wonder if you might just have a problem with one of the pots or a bad connection somewhere and are bleeding some of the good frequencies. It would be interesting to disconnect the neck pick up and come straight out to the amp, bypassing all the electronics, and see if that fixes it.
 
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Hi
Does any off you have some tips to tveak a boomy neck pickup,
i have a sg with black winter set, the bridge i have dialed in to my liking, but the neck i cant get right, it is the 5 and 6 string that is boomy

any help will be great :-)

You wouldn't happen to be using an amp that has Celestion G12T-75 speakers in it, would you? Or another type speaker that has similiar accentuated low end
voicing?

A couple years back I had a Dean Icon guitar that had a very boomy sounding low E string, and I tried many of the methods above to try and resolve it. Including the Demud Mod and even replacing the stock passive pickups with active pickups. And running the guitar through a EQ pedal where i cut the low frequencies a lot. None of these actions fully resolved that boomy Low E problem. (The Demud Mod and then later changing to active pickups did help a lot, but neither resolved it 100%)

Months later, I decided to sell the guitar - partly for that reason. So before listing it for sale, I returned it back to stock condition. And so after rewiring all the electronics back to stock condition, I had to naturally plug the guitar into an amp to listen and test that my wiring work had no issues. And I discovered that the boomy low E problem was gone. I thought about it and realized that I had recently replaced the G12T-75 speakers in my amp with different speakers. That was the only difference. So apparently the speakers were the cause of the problem.

EDIT: I should have mentioned that the Neck pickup was a PAF style humbucker with an A5 magnet.
 
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My cure for boomy neck pickups is to get rid of the alnico 5 or ceramic magnet and replace it with A2 or A3.

But I use paf style neck humbuckers. Not super overwound Death Metal pickups like the Black Winter.

I think that still would be a solution in this instance. If he swapped out the 3 double thick ceramics and replaced them with 1 regular thickness cermaic, it absolutely would be less boomy. (And balance better volume wise.)
 
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