Brief Review of the Duality Bridge Pickup

Masta' C

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I bought some Duality bridge pickups a couple months ago hoping...nay...praying that they would be THE answer to my wish for a "hot vintage" passive sound and feel in an active pickup design. Once I heard SD was using Alnico 2 magnets on these and a whole new preamp architecture to "let more of the passive voice through", I was sold!

It took me a few weeks to get them installed and give the new design a try, but now that I've had some time with the bridge model, I figured I'd share my thoughts on it...

First, if Angus Young went to Seymour Duncan and said he wanted to create an active pickup, I feel like this could very well be his signature model or at least something close to it. From the get-go, there's a cool classic rock voicing to it that isn't quite PAF and isn't quite EMG or Blackouts. In fact, I really haven't heard anything quite like it before, but it pairs well with a gritty Marshall type amp, does '70s hard rock and the "Texas" thing very well and actually sounds really good for finger-picked rock and blues styles, including ZZ Top, etc.

Now, before you start thinking this is THE vintage-meets-modern pickup to buy, let me tell you about its shortcomings, because there are a few.

First, it has a huge bottom end. And, no, not the firm kind you see on the gym girls at 5am, but more of a "you can take my baby, you can take my pride, but you can't take my cheese pizza" kind of a bottom end. It's boomy...overly so. It still manages decent articulation on the lower notes, but I really had to adjust the whole bass side of the pickup down a lot compared to the treble side to balance things out in both guitars I tried it in and I only play with 9s or 10s for strings. In my opinion, SD's EQ chart undersells the bass response by a large margin.

Second, it's not nearly as tight as advertised. Duncan claims the Duality is "powerful and tight enough for metal". Now, I wasn't expecting EMG 81 tight, mind you, and I know great "metal" has been made with pickups seemingly far less capable than this one, but that big bottom end response I just mentioned comes at a price and that price is tightness. Ultimately, the Duality bridge is not all that great for the heavy handed palm-muters among us. I mean, palm mutes ring out like thunder rolling across the sky, but if you want to ride the lightning, this pickup isn't really up to it (James Hetfield would be sad).

Third, the mid-mids have a rather strange compression. At first, I couldn't put my finger on what I was hearing. For one thing, the notes are well defined and, in glorious Alnico II fashion, there's a little of that "chewy" quality to the central midrange that I kind of expected and even sort of wanted, but it tends to have a bit of a "blanket over the speakers" thing happening right before it starts to breathe again in the upper mids. In some pickups, this kind of quality gives the notes a sort of "bloom" as you move up the strings, but it just doesn't work well here. Like I said, the pickup is very clear sounding like actives tend to be and solos are definitely articulate, but the mid-mids just aren't as open and dynamic as I was hoping this new design would yield.

Fourth, the treble gets quite peaky. Not in a JB "upper-mid hump" sort of way or quite like the 59's potential thinness in some guitars, but in the sense that the top end response is quite strident, broad and really extended frequency-wise. In Keith Merrow's demo video of the Duality set (below), you can sort of hear this boomy bottom/stuffy mids/spikey top thing going on whenever he plays the bridge pickup (make sure you're using good speakers or headphones). I didn't notice it initially, but after playing the pickup in person, I now can't UN-hear it. I've decided that Keith really did an incredible job working with the inherent tone and response characteristics of the Duality set in that video!

Lastly, that bright, nearly three-dimensional top end response doesn't carry over to very good upper-mid cut. If you only play crunchy rock style riffs or are more of a "shredder" who does lots of soloing/single-note runs, you may not care as much, because the pickup still has good presence overall. However, if you're into '80s rock solos or like to dabble in more dynamic styles like Van Halen, you might find the upper-mids a bit buried when chording and lacking the sparkle and presence of pickups like the '78, Pearly Gates or JB.

I admit to having had rather high hopes going in, but it makes sense as to why I have seen more used Duality pickups for sale than actual player reviews about them. I think buyers figure out pretty quickly whether these pickups are for them or not. For those wanting a fuller, hi-fi classic rock sound with the benefits of an active design, they are really good. For metal and progressive styles, I can see them excelling at creating ambience and atmosphere as seen in Keith's demo. However, for me, I think I'll stick to regular passives for now and wait for the next pickup based on the Duality technology to come about...

Edit: I do want add that the Duality has more headroom and a more reasonable output than any of the Blackouts I have tried (i.e. the AHB-1 and EMTY sets) and is rather responsive to volume knob adjustments.

 
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Thanks for the review of the Duality. It is a pickup that isn't mentioned a lot here, but should be.
 
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Seems to me it might be voiced with long-scale, bolt-on trem guitars in mind. Just out of curiosity, what guitar were you using it in, please?
 
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25.5" Maple neck/Swamp Ash body Superstrat with a Floyd Rose and an all-Mahogany Jackson Rhoads neck-through with a fixed bridge. Sounded very similar in both guitars, despite vastly different construction/shape/bridge.
 
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Ah. I guess it's just the nature of the beast then. Thanks for the review. Despite my aversion to active electronics I've been a bit curious about these, and the Fluence too.
 
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I feel like I kind of bashed the Duality bridge a bit with my criticisms, but it's a really nice pickup overall. For some, it may be THE pickup and I think Duncan is headed in the right direction with these. The Duality definitely has more headroom than the Blackouts, which I forgot to mention above, and it responds surprisingly well to changes of the volume knob. Many will appreciate those aspects.

There's a lot about the pickup that I can't quite put into words. I'd suggest anyone thinking about trying one to buy one and see for themselves!
 
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Just a small note, that's Keith Merrow in the video not Ola.

And thanks for the review, I was considering these as a replacement for the Loomis sigs as they are all over the place. Guess I will have to keep looking.
 
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Just a small note, that's Keith Merrow in the video not Ola.

And thanks for the review, I was considering these as a replacement for the Loomis sigs as they are all over the place. Guess I will have to keep looking.

Oops! Noted and edited...I should know better! :)

Where are you looking to go from the Loomis sigs? In other words, what didn't you like about them/what are you hoping to improve on?
 
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Just got my Duality Set and here are my thoughts.

First of all way better than the EMG Retro Actives, the EMG's still have that sterile harsh top end that always remind you you are playing through active pickups. The Retro actives are EMG's best offering IMO, way better than their other pickups. I feel they should be priced lower since they are made in South Korea and not here.

The Duality set I find sounds exactly like passives with all the touch and feel of passives, no Active tendencies here, except for good output. I am a Passive guy 100% and the only reason I have actives is they came with my ESP Eclipse. So I tried all the EMG variants. Waited to try the Duality's and shouldn't have.

The Dualitys are open with an airy top end, but it is sweet and not harsh like the EMG's, the mid range sound even and controlled. The bass is nice and tight and present. Yes tight enough for metal, sometimes flabby high gain amps are more the cause of flabbiness. I have very high gain amps and they are nice and tight.

These are relaxed a bit in the low mids department so they are very open sounding. So I am very happy with these. They were made to be fairly friendly across all frequencies to better fit with many types of music.

The best Actives made IMO are Duncan's Gus G Blackouts, and I would have them in many of my guitars except they have that silly logo on the pickups that detract from the aesthetics of the guitar.
 
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Just got my Duality Set and here are my thoughts.

First of all way better than the EMG Retro Actives, the EMG's still have that sterile harsh top end that always remind you you are playing through active pickups. The Retro actives are EMG's best offering IMO, way better than their other pickups. I feel they should be priced lower since they are made in South Korea and not here.

The Duality set I find sounds exactly like passives with all the touch and feel of passives, no Active tendencies here, except for good output. I am a Passive guy 100% and the only reason I have actives is they came with my ESP Eclipse. So I tried all the EMG variants. Waited to try the Duality's and shouldn't have.

The Dualitys are open with an airy top end, but it is sweet and not harsh like the EMG's, the mid range sound even and controlled. The bass is nice and tight and present. Yes tight enough for metal, sometimes flabby high gain amps are more the cause of flabbiness. I have very high gain amps and they are nice and tight.

These are relaxed a bit in the low mids department so they are very open sounding. So I am very happy with these. They were made to be fairly friendly across all frequencies to better fit with many types of music.

The best Actives made IMO are Duncan's Gus G Blackouts, and I would have them in many of my guitars except they have that silly logo on the pickups that detract from the aesthetics of the guitar.

Interesting observations. I only reviewed the Duality bridge pickup here. Can you elaborate more on the actual differences you are experiencing between the neck and bridge?

My Duality was not very tight sounding and it wasn't the wiring or setup that could be blamed (two different guitars, two very different constructions). It wasn't the amp either...I played through both a Katana 100 combo and a 6505+ head through a 2x12" cab, neither of which is terribly boomy by nature. Plus, I compared the pickups back-to-back with some of my other guitars I know very well, so I feel confident in my observations.

As I mentioned, the pickup was still quite articulate in the lower notes, but accurately assessing "tightness" is hard because it's a subjective measure and complicated by the amount of low end on tap that makes that pickup sound so big. In a way, it reminds me of the old DiMarzio Tone Zone, which could be a bit boomy in some guitars, as well. There are certainly worse pickups in the "tightness" department, but my point was that it wasn't as tight as SD's description lead me to believe it would be. I feel like mine responded very much like the bridge pickup in Keith Merrow's video and I have a suspicion that the bridge pickup's boomy nature is why he chose a slower progression when it came to the palm muted parts of his example.

As for the Gus G's...I feel ya! Great set, but Duncan made a huge mistake with that full-coverage logo. Tasteless and cheap looking, really. Which is sad, because they are indeed killer sounding pickups for rock and metal and probably my faves from the "Blackouts" era!

As for the EMG Retroactives, I'm mixed on trying them. As you mentioned, they're made overseas (now in Indonesia, actually!) yet cost as much as the US-made EMGs. Plus, I'm fairly certain they're just rehashing the existing SRO models at the core of the higher output RA set because the very first ones actually shipped with "SRO" labels still on the pickups' base plates! I know I found the original SRO set just average, so these haven't really piqued my interest much, though the RA 55 set might be fun to try if I score a set for cheap.
 
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We with pickups as most know, the guitar has a lot to do with how they sound and respond. The Duncan's which are more passive than active (well all active pickups are passive if you really thing about it) (Simply a passive coil mag setup into a pre-amp) So mileage will vary.

As for the Duality's, they could use a little less top and more low mids, but these were made to work in a variety of guitars and genres thus the more even response.
 
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Just played a PRS tonight with the 57/08 bridge pickup. It reminded me a LOT of the Duality bridge!

I know pickups can respond differently in different guitars, but the PRS was still more controllable and nuanced, likely due to being passive. Plus, it didn't have the overly-extended top end nor the overly-boomy bottom of the Duality, though it had a good does of highs and plenty of low-end warmth.

I was a bit surprised...both pickups seemed to have a very similar feel and voicing to me, but I'd still pick the PRS 57/08 over the Duality, personally.
 
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Long time lurker. Zombie bumping due to lack of detailed reviews on the Duality.

Thank you for the detailed review...it makes me wonder if the Duality would not fit my tone goal. Although, I dig that PRS pickup.

I have tried many new pickups and enjoy the EMG RAs. A pair of Fat 55s have turned my Edwards LP into my go to guitar and a Maverick set for my Strat is great too.

I have sold the set of Fluence Moderns, KSEs, and soon to be Classics. Great pickups, but I am preferring the RAs. The strat want to turn into a fat HSS setup. I put a Fishman in there and I am not happy with it. Debating about trying a RA hot 70 ceramic bridge to add to the diversity. The A2 of the Duality intrigued me and wondered if it would be good with a trem, as they can be tone robbers. Sounds like you had similar results.

I'll take the fat 55 out of my LP and try it in the Strat first.

Just played a PRS tonight with the 57/08 bridge pickup. It reminded me a LOT of the Duality bridge!

I know pickups can respond differently in different guitars, but the PRS was still more controllable and nuanced, likely due to being passive. Plus, it didn't have the overly-extended top end nor the overly-boomy bottom of the Duality, though it had a good does of highs and plenty of low-end warmth.

I was a bit surprised...both pickups seemed to have a very similar feel and voicing to me, but I'd still pick the PRS 57/08 over the Duality, personally.
 
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It's funny there were more threads about Duality before they were even released, yet I just now remembered they existed because of this thread.

I'm actually pretty eager to try a set now that I reminded myself, but weird how so few actual reviews have been posted here (relative to other things and in proportion to the interest in them before release.)
 
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Its bizarre how little information is available. I ended up grabbing a used EMG Hot 77 used for a price I could not refused. If I see a used price on a Duality I'll grab one to check out.

I think SD dropped the marketing ball where Fishman has been crazy getting the product in YT reviewer hands. I want to believe it would be a higher quality Retro Active with the ability to swap magnets would be sweet!
 
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It's a true shame that others haven't tried the Duality pickups (or at least spoken up about them). Not just here, but everywhere. There are basically no reviews of them.

I'd hate to think that my lonely review is the primary source people can lean on! It would be cool to get thoughts and experiences from other players, as well.

I agree with the marketing thing...one cool video isn't enough. SD's focus has been exclusively on pedals and artist model pickups over the past couple years, so the Duality took a back seat.

I think a lot of thought went into the Duality set and there's a TON of potential with the design. Heck, I'm half tempted to throw a ceramic or an A5 in a bridge model, just to see what it does!
 
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Heck, I'm half tempted to throw a ceramic or an A5 in a bridge model, just to see what it does!

I have a set sitting around Masta and wonder if you ever tried to swap magnets. It looks like it would be easy...not sure of anything is glued or active wiring could easily be damaged
 
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