MuddyWolfJohnson
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I found a guitar I want to steal parts off for my project guitar. But it has HH Blackouts. My build has an HSH body. Can they be rewired for this configuration? How difficult a project would that be?
Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
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Varg
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
I assume you are just going to leave the middle space unused - if so, just buy one of those flat black plastic single coil covers and screw it into the empty hole so it looks the same as the Blackouts.
In that case - yes that will all work fine.
If you were wanting to use the single coil, thats a different matter.
I assume you are just going to leave the middle space unused - if so, just buy one of those flat black plastic single coil covers and screw it into the empty hole so it looks the same as the Blackouts.
In that case - yes that will all work fine.
If you were wanting to use the single coil, thats a different matter.
TheLivingDead
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
What are the controls like? You'd, at the very least, have to put in a 3-way.
Edit: Nevermind. I thought you were just wanting to put the Blackouts in an already established HSH body/guitar and forget about the middle. You could just get a single Blackout AS-1 for the middle. And depending on your control scheme I'm sure Duncan has a wiring diagram for it on their site. Should be easy enough.
What are the controls like? You'd, at the very least, have to put in a 3-way.
Edit: Nevermind. I thought you were just wanting to put the Blackouts in an already established HSH body/guitar and forget about the middle. You could just get a single Blackout AS-1 for the middle. And depending on your control scheme I'm sure Duncan has a wiring diagram for it on their site. Should be easy enough.
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MuddyWolfJohnson
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
Actually, yes, I do want to use the Blackout Single AS-1 in the middle pup position. In fact what I have in mind is having NO selector switch but instead wiring each of the 3 pups to its own volume knob. No tone knobs. The 3 volumes would be used more like an EQ and all the way down would be the off position for each pup. To select one pup just turn the other two down. Two of the 3 volume knobs would be push/pull giving me 3 out of phase options (neck oop | mid oop | neck & mid oop). Can that be done with Blackouts?
Actually, yes, I do want to use the Blackout Single AS-1 in the middle pup position. In fact what I have in mind is having NO selector switch but instead wiring each of the 3 pups to its own volume knob. No tone knobs. The 3 volumes would be used more like an EQ and all the way down would be the off position for each pup. To select one pup just turn the other two down. Two of the 3 volume knobs would be push/pull giving me 3 out of phase options (neck oop | mid oop | neck & mid oop). Can that be done with Blackouts?
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
Ah I see.
I'm not completely sure, to be honest with you. If their wires are anything like EMG's (and I think they are) then you can't wire OOP. But hopefully someone who has experience with BO's can chime in. Good luck!
Edit: Found that EMG makes a dedicated OOP switch. The EMG Phase Inverter (EMG Pi2). Maybe that would work for you if you're not opposed to switches.
Ah I see.
I'm not completely sure, to be honest with you. If their wires are anything like EMG's (and I think they are) then you can't wire OOP. But hopefully someone who has experience with BO's can chime in. Good luck!
Edit: Found that EMG makes a dedicated OOP switch. The EMG Phase Inverter (EMG Pi2). Maybe that would work for you if you're not opposed to switches.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
The main consideration with Blackouts, Live Wires and certain other rival brands of active pickup is the depth of the pickup cavity. Regardless of output cable format (hard-wired or Quik Connect), the majority of active guitar pickups require a generous gap underneath between the elevator screw lugs on the pickup cover.
The main consideration with Blackouts, Live Wires and certain other rival brands of active pickup is the depth of the pickup cavity. Regardless of output cable format (hard-wired or Quik Connect), the majority of active guitar pickups require a generous gap underneath between the elevator screw lugs on the pickup cover.
RobSoundtrack
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
Blackouts are all three wire, could run them like independent systems. All red wires to battery, ground them all, all hot wires to individual pot inputs, combine all outputs to hot lug of output jack. Ground the whole system...oh and stereo jack to 'turn the system on' looks like piece of cake
Blackouts are all three wire, could run them like independent systems. All red wires to battery, ground them all, all hot wires to individual pot inputs, combine all outputs to hot lug of output jack. Ground the whole system...oh and stereo jack to 'turn the system on' looks like piece of cake
RobSoundtrack
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
Ps, dont forget to use 25k audio pots....mmmmm low-z
Ps, dont forget to use 25k audio pots....mmmmm low-z
Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
But wouldn't turning any one of volume knobs down all the way kill the output from the other two pickups as well?
But wouldn't turning any one of volume knobs down all the way kill the output from the other two pickups as well?
MuddyWolfJohnson
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Re: Can HH Blackouts be used in a HSH body?
No because each pup will be wired independently.
I have a guitar (below) that is wired kind of that way. It has a Pearly Gates (N), Hot Rails (M), and Full Shred (B). The 5 position selector switch was replaced by 5 little switches. Three are 3 position (normal, off, and out of phase) with 2 coil taps and the 3rd coil tap as a push/pull used to be the tone knob. The tone knob was rewired as a volume knob that operates the bridge and middle pups and the volume knob only works on the bridge pup. The cool thing is, let's say I'm playing with the bridge pup and its sounding a little too thin. I just roll on a little of the neck pup to fatten it up. And I can manipulate the out of phase the same way to dial in just the right amount to cut through and sound distinctive.
So what this new configuration will do is give me everything the other one does (except coil splitting) with a much simpler and less confusing layout. 3 pups 3 volume knobs. No selector switch. Its the same as the other layout (below) except instead of an on/off/reverse switch the pups are always on and the out of phase is wired to two push/pulls. And instead of two pups being wired to one volume control they're wired each to its own. And no coil taps which I never use anyway because I prefer my Strat for single coil tones.
No because each pup will be wired independently.
I have a guitar (below) that is wired kind of that way. It has a Pearly Gates (N), Hot Rails (M), and Full Shred (B). The 5 position selector switch was replaced by 5 little switches. Three are 3 position (normal, off, and out of phase) with 2 coil taps and the 3rd coil tap as a push/pull used to be the tone knob. The tone knob was rewired as a volume knob that operates the bridge and middle pups and the volume knob only works on the bridge pup. The cool thing is, let's say I'm playing with the bridge pup and its sounding a little too thin. I just roll on a little of the neck pup to fatten it up. And I can manipulate the out of phase the same way to dial in just the right amount to cut through and sound distinctive.
So what this new configuration will do is give me everything the other one does (except coil splitting) with a much simpler and less confusing layout. 3 pups 3 volume knobs. No selector switch. Its the same as the other layout (below) except instead of an on/off/reverse switch the pups are always on and the out of phase is wired to two push/pulls. And instead of two pups being wired to one volume control they're wired each to its own. And no coil taps which I never use anyway because I prefer my Strat for single coil tones.
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